MorphOS 3.0 released - PowerBook G4 support and new pricing

[Piru]

Really? I mean, when you say "the masses" you're really talking about that miniscule group of people that a) can be assed getting an ancient Mac b) know what morphos is c) can be bothered to pay the exorbitant fee to purchase it and then install it and d) know that they're using an OS that is crippled in terms of hardware it supports and software it runs.

I think if the wireless isn't ready for those "masses" then it must be a state of non-written-ness.

Are you really suggesting that users should be manually writing cryptic wpa_supplicant.conf files in order to get online? This stuff really is not ready for wider audiences yet.

[dreamcast270mhz]

@Piru

I trust you guys in your judgement when something is ready. EvilGuy is too used to everything being handed to him. I really, really think all you developers get unloaded on for no good reason.

@EvilGuy
If you want to bitch and moan about how unfair it is, do it elsewhere. We do not take kindly to immature people here, believe me I know. I have my own gripes about MorphOS but I just choose to keep it as a hobby OS.
 People are crazy if they can really expect MorphOS to be a daily use system even yet. It still lacks a myriad of things, so I choose OS X for everyday use, especially since OS X is only $30 to buy, compared to that bloated piece of crap called windows that I just end up torrenting every so often when I want it.

And wireless is convenient, but it definitely pays to have an old fashioned wired connection, especially when you have a big enough house that pockets of it are out of range of the router

[runequester]

"feature X, that is taken for granted today, is not actually needed at all". Windows user in 1990, Amiga user in 1994, linux user in 96, or MOS user in 2012?

[commodorejohn]

"feature X, that is taken for granted today, is not actually needed at all". Windows user in 1990, Amiga user in 1994, linux user [strike]in 96[/strike] 1993-present, or MOS user in 2012?

Fixed that for you.

[TheBilgeRat]

obligatory xkcd:

http://xkcd.com/619/

[runequester]

hah, that's funny

[smerf]

Sweet Yeti of the Serengeti! How much for a G4 PowerBook these days?

-edit-

Thread merge. Sorry, Harry, I approved them in the order I saw them

Hi,

If its over 2 centavos, cents, peso, it is just too much.

smerf

[smerf]

Another looney says

[MorphOS, OS4 and Classic Amiga systems are the only ones who are real 'Amigas', not that joke AROS or Amiga Forever.]

It is so nice of you to let us know what real Amiga's are, since I was with the REAL Amiga two weeks after it hit the market, I would dare to say that MorphOS is just another Amiga emulator that works on just a MAC. I do not consider MorphOS or OS4 to be real Amiga's. They are very poor emulators of the Amiga system. The Amiga Forever emulator is closer to the real Amiga then anything else out there, it is mostly automatic so any beginning computer user can load up an Amiga program wheter it be NTSC/Pal, AGA or PAL. It even emulates a 4 disk system when you have a program that has more than 1 floppy disk, by this I mean it will run an old 4 disk program by automatically sensing that this program has 4 disks and automatically sets up for a four disk drive system. Amiga Forever even senses CD32 cd when placed in your CD drive. It is the utmost in Amiga Emulation, nothing else compares to it's simplicity, not even the real Amiga itself.

To say that MorphOS is a classic Amiga, is like saying a VW is like a Ferrari, there is just no way that MorphOS can compete with Amiga Forever, it is just too simple of a computer emulator that needs a lot more work to even compare with version one of the original WinUAE.

Sorry but the truth should be known.

smerf

[LoadWB]

"Just like the atom bomb... everybody's having a good time, then BOOM!"

*sigh*

[EvilGuy]

If you want to bitch and moan about how unfair it is, do it elsewhere.

Its not unfair. If people want to spend money on something that isn't finished by modern standards then so be it. A fool and their money are easily parted.

But like you said, its a hobby OS - nobody is expecting morphos to be a serious anything, right?

Are you really suggesting that users should be manually writing cryptic wpa_supplicant.conf files in order to get online? This stuff really is not ready for wider audiences yet.

Morphos isn't ready for the wider audiences. If it was, it would have functional wireless however the people who are going to be paying for this probably are the ones who'd be bothered to fiddle with configuration files.

(Hell, if morphos was ready for the wider audience it'd be running on hardware created in the last few years, not something you need to grab from dumpster diving - but that's probably a whole new thread..)

[Piru]

the people who are going to be paying for this probably are the ones who'd be bothered to fiddle with configuration files.

Considering that:
a) Future update will add the wireless functionality (and it will be a free update) and
b) getting the wireless into 3.0 would have meant even more delay for the 3.0 release

...I don't think this is unreasonable situation. Of course if you insist on having wireless you can of course wait for the update.

[Duce]

Thanks for the update, Piru.  All I needed to know about 3.0 was the wireless was coming in due time, so I can hang onto the PB 'til you get that done.

[jj]

@Piru
 
The future update will this be wirelss for pcmcia cards, usb wirless dongles, the bulit in wirless on PBs , the airport cards in mac minis, or all  ?

[Piru]

@Piru
 
The future update will this be wirelss for pcmcia cards, usb wirless dongles, the bulit in wirless on PBs , the airport cards in mac minis, or all  ?

At least for the moment this does not include the built-in WLAN (airport). Of course having support for the built-in WLAN would be the optimum solution, and it may be that this will be looked into in the future.

[jj]

Ok thanks for the info.  USB dongles would obviously be the best other solution

[Crumb]

Well, the Amiga demos that you can run under MorphOS are a serious minority, so judging by your own requirements you'd probably be better of with classic hardware and OS 3.x, I think. There's no point arguing over what OS is better if there's no common point of reference, anyway.

I care about Amiga software. The only unix software I'm interested is the correctly ported one. CLI ported apps are crap. alien-GUI ported apps are crap too

At this point I assume that you are just trolling. What I'm trying to say is that a CLI is very useful for some tasks, regardless of the GUI. If you disagree with that, I guess you have been too busy watching Fluffy Digital Snowflakes to do anything seriously productive with your computer.

I use cli to launch scripts that automate tasks and to compile, but for normal use it's usually slower than GUI (unless your GUI is absolutely crap).