MorphOS 3.0 released - PowerBook G4 support and new pricing

[Piru]

Live-CD runs perfectly on my PBook 15" 1.67 (not the high-res one). But when I try to install using manual partition, I'm able to resize OSX partition but I'm a little bit confused about what to do next.
1) I have created a small 1GB HFS Partition + a big 20gb SFS partition. I tried some other options as well, but MorphOS complains about "Not a valid DOS partition" or something.
Where can I find information about what do I need to manually do in order to procceed?

See the Dual-boot MorphOS and MacOS X on a Mac Mini G4 guide. It applies to PowerBook as well.

[hbarcellos]

See the Dual-boot MorphOS and MacOS X on a Mac Mini G4 guide. It applies to PowerBook as well.

Thanks. I'll try it at night at home.
About this:

"As mentioned in the Prerequisites section, in case you have an existing OSX installation, you will have to resize its partition to make some room for MorphOS. Since not everybody has retail Leopard DVD, I will use Ubuntu to explain how to do this."

Strangely enough, I was able to resize my OSX partition inside MorphOS! Is that a new feature of 3.0 or a bug?

[Digiman]

I think the problem is that most of the /. "geeks" moved on from Amigas themselves, or their contemporaries, when they personally decided that they were "dead". Therefore, because they think the platform is dead, that means the platform is dead, and anyone still using it is in denial and flogging a dead horse (which must be dead because they abandoned it long ago, Q.E.D.).

The whole concept of it not actually being dead even though they stopped using it doesn't even occur to many people there.

As you may be able to tell, I don't bother reading /. any more. It's too depressing, loads of apparent geeks who really believe that using an Apple (for MacOS) genuinely is "thinking different".

If they were running something pathetic as Windows ME and now have the MorphOS choice too then sure, but is MorphOS adding any new ability to a G4 1.67ghz PB which had OSX installed on it? No. That is why nobody cares, same reason as installing Linux on that machine is boring.

[Crumb]

I'm not a fan of the 'tiered' pricing.  It's all the same OS.

But since each OS license is linked to the hardware it's a very reasonable solution IMHO. The previous situation with Efika license costing more than peg2/Mac Mini license caused that some people didn't register. Now it's perhaps a little late but better than nothing I guess.

[Crumb]

If they were running something pathetic as Windows ME and now have the MorphOS choice too then sure, but is MorphOS adding any new ability to a G4 1.67ghz PB which had OSX installed on it? No. That is why nobody cares, same reason as installing Linux on that machine is boring.

MorphOS is more responsive, plays HD videos better and faster and includes a nice HTML5 browser. Moreover, it allows you to run Amiga software (including PPC demos) at decent speeds, unlike OSX+uae. I can launch modern amiga demos directly (unlike OSX). MorphOS is supported and updated.

PS: I haven't benchmarked it but Poseidon seems faster than OSX transfering files through USB2. Perhaps RTCW is faster on MorphOS too.

[Dragster]

Thanks. I'll try it at night at home.

Yep.. and I can confirm the guide applies for the Powerbook as I was able to install MOS 3.0 on my Powerbook together with OSX.

Cheers,
Dragster.

[motrucker]

It looks like I will soon shock many of my friends, and join the MorphOS bandwagon.....

[hbarcellos]

Ok, I was able to install MorphOS 3.0 in my PB, but, I now can't boot from OSX.
Inside HDConfig, I can see the following:
* DH0: 64MB HFS 5% used
* - 128MB
* DH2: 63.98GB HFS NODOS (this is the OSX partition)
* DH1: 10.36GB SFS 1% used (this is MorphOS partition)
* - 8KB

When holding ALT during boot, only MorphOS HD is shown as bootable.
Someone can help me on that?

[hbarcellos]

Well, the OSX partition is not being mounted on MorphOS neither can be mounted/verified/repaired using Leopard installation DVD...
On MorphOS is not even identified as a Mac HFS or any other known type.
I think it's gone, forever!

Any suggestions?

[itix]

I would just erase it and reformat it for MorphOS. I still have dual boot option on my Mac mini and it never gets used.

[Piru]

Well, the OSX partition is not being mounted on MorphOS neither can be mounted/verified/repaired using Leopard installation DVD...
On MorphOS is not even identified as a Mac HFS or any other known type.
I think it's gone, forever!

Any suggestions?

The OS X partition is a goner now. MorphOS doesn't know how to resize the filesystem.

If you wish to have a dual boot setup you need to start from the scratch by installing OS X, and then continuing with the instructions I posted before.

(While it might be possible to reinstall OS X without zapping MorphOS, I wouldn't count on it, and it might require some extensive tweaking. Using the good know procedure is the easiest route to successful dual installation)

[hbarcellos]

The OS X partition is a goner now. MorphOS doesn't know how to resize the filesystem.
If you wish to have a dual boot setup you need to start from the scratch by installing OS X, and then continuing with the instructions I posted before.
(While it might be possible to reinstall OS X without zapping MorphOS, I wouldn't count on it, and it might require some extensive tweaking. Using the good know procedure is the easiest route to successful dual installation)

Well, obviously the Powerbook is not my main machine, so, reinstall everything from scratch would'nt be a problem.
But, just as a suggestion, why resize is not disabled at HDConfig? Or, at least a warning explaining which formats MorphOS HDConfig Resize functionality is able to deal with?

Rgds,
Muffie.

[Kronos]

Actually installing OSX after MorphOS is a no-brainer when there allready is a big HFS(+) partition in place.

The OSX-installer will just let you use it but once it's done OSX will be the default boot-options (which can be changed by useing the last chapters of that dual-boot manual).

[haywirepc]

I think It does add alot to a machine like that. Me? I think mac hardware is very nice but since I've run linux for many years, osx is just not that exciting to me, so I never bought a mac. I always thought they were way to expensive. On the used market though... 50-100$ is not bad for something to play with.

I keep saying I will buy a g4 mac for this, but haven't yet. If anyone has one cheap, pm me, especially if you'd like to trade for some amiga stuff. I have an amigamaniac svideo adapter, and svideo to vga adapter,an a500 brick power supply, and a bunch of aminet cdroms, maybe some other odds and ends.

[zylesea]

I would just erase it and reformat it for MorphOS. I still have dual boot option on my Mac mini and it never gets used.

While on the mini I share your experience, I think on the Powerbook a dual boot setup is rather handy. When at home you usually have choice of several computers and no particular reason to fire up OS X on that certain machine which is running MorphOS, but when on the road you usually have only one machine with you. Then it's nice to have a choice. As much as I like MorphOS it also has some software shortcomings which can be bridged by OS X.

But I suggest another dual boot setup (that's how I did it with my mini): Get a firewire hdd. Install MorphOS on the internal disk and OS X on the firewire disk. The fw cable is you boot menu then. If plugged in OS X starts, if not MorphOS boots straightly. A very clean solution. But requires the external drive which is no issue for a desktop machine, but kind of an issue on a mobile device.

I am not yet decided myself whether I'll use that solution for my powerbook or if I am going to do a dual boot on the internal drive.

[zylesea]

Actually installing OSX after MorphOS is a no-brainer when there allready is a big HFS(+) partition in place.

The OSX-installer will just let you use it but once it's done OSX will be the default boot-options (which can be changed by useing the last chapters of that dual-boot manual).

Don't you also need the according padding partitions? I never understood what exactly they are needed for by OS X...