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Offline itix

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #119 from previous page: May 25, 2012, 06:59:27 AM »
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Even if this thing ends up as an '040 accel, if it offers all the goodies like RAM expansion, USB, network, etc. that it promises to - it will be an absolute godsend for 3000/4000 owners.


 Shame that anything beyond 128 MB is unreachable by Zorro DMA.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #120 on: May 25, 2012, 07:20:39 AM »
Have you an estimated price for this new card ?

1/ 0 - 100 €
2/ 100 - 200 €
3/ 200 - 300 €
4/ 300 - 400 €
5/ 400 - 500 €

??

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #121 on: May 25, 2012, 08:08:19 AM »
I think this is really really great.. :)

The upside to having a good CPU bus. :)
When this gets done, I guess those used A4K and A3K will go up in price.

If only we could get a drop-in replacement to the A4K mobo.
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #122 on: May 25, 2012, 10:50:36 AM »
Quote from: Cosmos;694228
Have you an estimated price for this new card ?

1/ 0 - 100 €
2/ 100 - 200 €
3/ 200 - 300 €
4/ 300 - 400 €
5/ 400 - 500 €

??

The 1541II ultimate is 129€ I paid 170€ for the version one with ethernet so I think you can safely remove option 1 and 2 :)


 
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #123 on: May 25, 2012, 10:57:20 AM »
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Shame that anything beyond 128 MB is unreachable by Zorro DMA.


And what does Z3-DMA ?

- Deneb.... well there is USB on the board
- A4091/A4000T-SCSI .... no big loss, SATA onboard
- Fastlane ... ditto
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #124 on: May 25, 2012, 12:53:14 PM »
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Nope Piru is right.
 
Speaking for myself i have about 20000 mp3 files in my collection. But you're right - no-one uses mp3 anymore...

Unless, you arte super rich, I beleive you mazy not have paid for all those 20,00 mp3s :)
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #125 on: May 25, 2012, 01:05:22 PM »
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Unless, you arte super rich, I beleive you mazy not have paid for all those 20,00 mp3s :)


Maybe he ripped his own collection of records,tapes, Cd's,etc?  1 album a week for 23 years would be around 17000 songs. :)
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #126 on: May 25, 2012, 01:10:43 PM »
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Unless, you arte super rich, I beleive you mazy not have paid for all those 20,00 mp3s :)

Quote from: Terminills;694240
Maybe he ripped his own collection of records,tapes, Cd's,etc?  1 album a week for 23 years would be around 17000 songs. :)

My collection goes back to when Napster was in its prime. I have never paid for an mp3 because i will not pay for a substandard quality recording.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #127 on: May 25, 2012, 01:43:40 PM »
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My collection goes back to when Napster was in its prime. I have never paid for an mp3 because i will not pay for a substandard quality recording.


Would you steal a car, if it does not live up to your expectations?
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #128 on: May 25, 2012, 02:15:50 PM »
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My collection goes back to when Napster was in its prime. I have never paid for an mp3 because i will not pay for a substandard quality recording.


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Would you steal a car, if it does not live up to your expectations?


Seriously?  1998 called, it wants its flamewar back.

I promise you have nothing to gain or lose for being a self-righteous f*** about this topic - so many many more before you have walked that path.

Also, your argument is fallacious.
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #129 on: May 25, 2012, 02:36:14 PM »
It may have been said countless times before, but it does not change the fact, that it is stealing, all pirating is stealing.
That fact has not changed since 1998 or what ever year you pick.
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #130 on: May 25, 2012, 04:02:36 PM »
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What, no Natami support?


I think a mainboard made with UtltimatePPC and Natami as the chipset woud be awesome! It would also be the closest to a real PPC Amiga. :-)
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #131 on: May 25, 2012, 04:04:07 PM »
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It may have been said countless times before, but it does not change the fact, that it is stealing, all pirating is stealing.
That fact has not changed since 1998 or what ever year you pick.


That "fact" has never been true. Theft and copyright infringement are not the same crime nor covered by the same law in any country on earth, for a very simple reason: The legal definition of theft requires that the owner is deprived of that which is stolen.

All human societies have had restrictions on theft, dating back thousands of years even in written statutes, but the very idea of copyright is relatively recent (it dates back to the Statute of Anne from 1710), and was put in place explicitly because theft does *not* cover copying. It was a landgrab.

First a lot later did the idea of justifying copyright as a way of promoting the arts and sciences come about, but even then the theory goes that it is a trade between the public and the creators of works: The public voluntarily give up some rights they would otherwise have in order to give a time limited monopoly, in order to promote creation of more works.

Copyright is explicitly *not* about protecting the rights of creators of works, but about creating new ones by taking away rights from the public.

Since then the power has shifted more and more away from the public with little to no proof that the increasingly uneven trade is worth it.

Long way of saying that the idea of equating theft and copyright infringement is laughable, and demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding for what copyright is about.
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #132 on: May 25, 2012, 04:19:13 PM »
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What is the point of the 040 then? Why not include a JIT in rom?.


For one thing the card would still need to boot. If it goes in the CPU slot then there needs to be a real 68K on there or at least some soft 68K that can activate itself on bootup and execute the AmigaOS reset routine from ROM.

That being said you could also say why not just make a cheap x86 based accelerator? Amithlon provided a fast way to emulate AmigaOS on 68K and for Amiga programs to be compiled as native x86. So much so that some people wanted OS4 PPC to be dumped in favor of Amitlhon becoming the official OS4. Aside from the x86 OS4 Amiga announced it didn't make sense to me wanting to replace an OS with an emulated version of the same OS and claim it as the next version!

So in theory you could use a soft 68K on x86 as well. Provided it was cheap because of the CPU. With that speed endianness becomes a low issue.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #133 on: May 25, 2012, 04:23:33 PM »
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I think a mainboard made with UtltimatePPC and Natami as the chipset woud be awesome! It would also be the closest to a real PPC Amiga. :-)
now  thats a great idea  .... in a amiga  type 500 case  ..ppc3000/060 1gighz..dvd an high density floppy  on right hand  side of  case  ..slide in dvd like the ps3  ..multiple  ports  on back ..usb  etc ..compact flash  hardrives  inside ..wireless mouse/keyboard  ..inbuilt indivision type  to output  from the super fantastic quad AAA  chipset  ..wireless  network  inbuilt broadband ......???  ..its  nice  to dream  :>
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #134 on: May 25, 2012, 04:56:46 PM »
How about we keep the offtopic copyright discussion in another thread?