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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2012, 02:48:27 PM »
Quote from: Piru;694018
The CPU slot maxes at 128MB.

It's the same with all CPU slot accelerators (Cyberstorm etc).


I seem to remember about 2GB of reserved address space in the A3000T memory map. And what is max that Zorro3 has defined? I don't remember now. Anyway, that PPC can surely address way more memory than what was ever defined by Commodore. What this more likely is, is a PPC system design with address space assigned to the 040 and to the Amiga motherboard.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2012, 02:49:52 PM »
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beautiful project, but since there is no support from os4, morphos nor warpup or powerup soultion holders respectively i wonde3r why the choice fell for ppc? if starting clean from the scratch wouldnt some other processor choice be more promissing?


A good point, maybe something like the i.MX535! :) Would offer a lot of more, for a lot less, with an extremely low energy/heat profile! I'm sure there would be a way to bolt on the old Amiga HW to it somehow... :)
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2012, 03:34:24 PM »
talking  memory ..i got  100 meg  fast  ram  ..most  programs  dont  make a dent in it  ..maybe  heretic  which  takes  10 meg  fast ram  just to load  it  seems ...only  memory  problem the amiga has is the limit  of 2 meg  chip  memory  ...nice  wallpaper  an workbench  an most of it is gone  ..thats  why i still hold out an hope for  natami  ..if i remember  correctley  i saw  a screenshot  of natami  with   heaps  of  chipram  an fast ram  showing ..cant  see a hardware  solution on a a1200  happening ..but  i wonder why we  cant  have a software program  which  redirects  chip  to fast  even if we use  double  the memory  i think  most  of use  have  heaps  fast ram to use ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #62 on: May 23, 2012, 04:18:27 PM »
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It is if you wish to DMA to the memory via the system bus. If you're happy with using a temporary DMA buffer and copying when needed then adding extra memory is no problem.

I'm not convinced there is a limit, the accelerator slot must have a 32bit bus. There are however limitations in kickstart for memory sizing, but you don't need to use that.
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2012, 05:35:50 PM »
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http://ultimateppc.nl/index.php
 
I know I want one already!


Looks really good.  I would like send them an email..but could not find one listed
on the website..

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2012, 05:51:14 PM »
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Looks really good.  I would like send them an email..but could not find one listed
on the website..

Rich


It is http://ultimateppc.nl/support.php
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #65 on: May 23, 2012, 06:37:38 PM »
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I'm not convinced there is a limit, the accelerator slot must have a 32bit bus. There are however limitations in kickstart for memory sizing, but you don't need to use that.
Unless it multiplexes address and data, 32 data lines does not necessarily imply 32 address lines...
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2012, 06:56:24 PM »
Great looking project which I hope makes it to market.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2012, 07:51:20 PM »
Well, I'm glad that they are starting with the big box amigas as there are plenty of expansion options for the 1200s :p

Also, because I have one :D
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2012, 08:22:53 PM »
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Oh. :lol:

BTW, please define "MorphOS compatibility"...?

:)


"Compatality" - AROS PPC (hosted and/or native) being able to run MorphOS applications.

Initial compatibility would be limited to applications/tools shipped with MorphOS.

Phase 1: Able to run MorphOS DOS CLI applications

Phase 2: Able to run MorphOS Intuition applications

Phase 3: Able to run MorphOS MUI applications

Phase 4: Third-party MorphOS application compatibility.

This should allow better code sharing between MorphOS and AROS, ultimately allowing MorphOS to use the AROS code base to start a transition to other architectures, as the PowerPC comes to an end-of-life.
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #69 on: May 23, 2012, 08:42:17 PM »
No 68040 please. After 10 years spent to source 68060 boards for my amigas, i won't go back to 68040 even for a PPC addon.
And indeed, an A1200 version is mandatory here for success of this board.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2012, 09:14:47 PM »
Interesting if cheap and if it can run Amiga OS 4.x. If it cost more than a SAM then I don't see the point, doing a 68060 board will be better.  Kamel
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2012, 09:31:59 PM »
If this makes it out with decent enough driver support in place and a reasonable price tag I'll probably buy one, and I'm a very casual Amiga user. I primarily want it for the ethernet, then the graphics. I don't actually use the Amigas I've acquired because I have no way to easily get new software on to them, the network should solve that. The 68040 is a nice upgrade for my 4000D/030 too. All the other features are a nice bonus.

I've thought about expanding my Amigas but the thought of trying to track down a pile of rare, old, and overpriced bits puts me off, so this is great.

The PPC is probably what I would be least interested in, but it's nice to have. There's no way I'll every pay to be an OS4 or MorphOS user as it doesn't interest me enough. This would be a great card to port AROS too though, and I'd certainly tinker with that setup.

For a good laugh what I'd really love to see is a solution like this targeting the A1000. It would be so awesome that a computer from 1985 could do all these awesome things. I'd buy that in a second.
 

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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #72 on: May 23, 2012, 11:57:40 PM »
Would love to buy one for my A4000D. I love OS4.1 but it runs really slow on my A1200T and I am in the position of do I go with a Sam or wait for something else. Truly, I'd prefer to use my mediator equipped A4000D over the A1200T but I simply can't due to lack of a PPC for the machine.

I also understand you don't have OS4.x compatibility atm, but hopefully that would come. Finally, I would love to have all the extras you describe there; USB, Video, etc...

I agree an 060 or an A1200 version would be nice but I'd be happy with the current spec since my A4000D is what is lacking extras ATM.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2012, 01:08:42 AM »
@thread

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the FPU in e500/e500v2 is incompatible with the ones we have been using (in the e300, the e600, the  PPC4xx, the PPC7xx and the PPC970 for that matter), meaning it isn't really suitable for MorphOS/OS4/PowerUP/WarpUP and their existing software base?


"addition of double precision floating point support. this is not compatible with any other PowerPC floating point unit, and in fact the instruction set overlaps with string and altivec instructions as well."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_e500#e500v2
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #74 from previous page: May 24, 2012, 03:01:25 AM »
Sounds like a modern BlizzardPPC, which I bought back in the day for
$1100USD in 1997-8? and sold recently for $700USD.  Today, I would expect to purchase something like this for $700.  I have 2 A3000s and 3 A4000s that could use it. If it is "real", it would be pretty cool.  Even with a decent computing background, not understanding why there's a 68040 on board other than to be basically electrically compatible with traditional ami hardware. (if the 680x0 can be abstracted as I'm hearing)...  If it is the case that an abstracted 680x0 [however implemented] can run native amiga apps and access chipram and such, than this would be an amazing "piece of kit"