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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #359 from previous page: May 09, 2012, 02:12:44 AM »
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Well if it's gonna be a fight, I'll have to remember a They Live-type one-liner. "Hope your eyes can stand...the blue-light special!" *PUNCH*


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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #360 on: May 09, 2012, 03:26:50 AM »
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We're a small company trying to do the best we can with the IP we have

I really wish you wouldn't.  It's embarrassing.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #361 on: May 09, 2012, 03:49:52 AM »
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Just wow, having the dog on the board of directors.


A nod to Jay Miner's dog on the list of staff at Hi-Toro?
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #362 on: May 09, 2012, 03:51:29 AM »
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It's CUSA's answer to Mitchie the dog don't ya know... If Jay Minor was still about I wonder which "Commodore" he'd have disliked most.


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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #363 on: May 09, 2012, 04:24:00 AM »
I dunno, having a dog play a role like Mitchie is in my opinion poor taste...  Its just like trying to be something that your not..  The original certainly has big shoes to fill which is best left untouched.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #364 on: May 09, 2012, 07:25:22 AM »
erm...it getsgetting better though as someone over at AW has suggested:

"Barry and his... erm... 'staff' (for lack of a better word) like to feel important. They probably haven't paid a single cent of licensing fees for the Commodore name (they didn't pay anything until December and they are renegotiating since then, IIRC) and they most certainly didn't pay for the Amiga license yet. They get all of this attention and the accompanying hard-on for free. Best way to make them feel miserable is to ignore them."

So it could well be that Amiga Inc. have given the name out on a "loan" basis...or haven't been paid anything yet...could this be the case?
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #365 on: May 09, 2012, 07:37:43 AM »
errrk does it really matter, the only way you will be able to find out is if you ask Amiga Inc yourself..  You could say your interested in licensing the name whatever to get your foot in the door..
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #366 on: May 09, 2012, 08:13:01 AM »
That would be interesting actually. Ask them if you can license the name "Amiga" for your computer, tell them that you heard someone had an exclusive license to ALL computers bearing the name Amiga, and see what they say... if they say you can have it for a price, then C=USA do not have an exclusive license.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #367 on: May 09, 2012, 11:04:38 AM »
They probably only paid for Commodore logo but as the Amiga trademark is dead Amiga Inc are fukt now and couldn't have sold it.

The best they could have done to avoid problems would have been replica cases, but I suspect C64x didn't make much of a profit hence VIC Mini/Amiga Mini bolloks ;)
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #368 on: May 09, 2012, 11:08:17 AM »
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They probably only paid for Commodore logo but as the Amiga trademark is dead Amiga Inc are fukt now and couldn't have sold it.

The best they could have done to avoid problems would have been replica cases, but I suspect C64x didn't make much of a profit hence VIC Mini/Amiga Mini bolloks ;)


That's exactly what they can't do though.

The Amiga trademark is only dead for software. For hardware it's still alive, but not for cases. However, the trade-mark does cover disk drives.

I suspect this is why all the C=USA "bare bones" systems all come with blu-ray drives built-in. This way they can claim it's a disk drive, as they don't have the license to produce a case.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #369 on: May 09, 2012, 02:40:34 PM »
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They probably only paid for Commodore logo
No, they didn't. They had licensed the Commodore logo from Asiarim, who explained in all of its (publicly available) SEC filings that their single licensor CUSA - which was supposed to be their main source of income - hadn't paid yet. Asiarim started to go downhill towards the end of last year, while Barry/Dammy started to hint that CUSA might become the next owner of the trademarks ("Commodore trademark has a new daddy"). Currently, Asiarim and Commodore Holdings - the former owner of the Commodore trademarks - are fighting in court over the ownership of the trademarks.

IMHO, it's pretty safe to assume that CUSA didn't pay any licensing fees for the Commodore logos so far.

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but as the Amiga trademark is dead
The "Amiga trademark" isn't dead. The one covering software has been cancelled by the USPTO, but that one was only filed in 2006, IIRC. During the rest of the Amiga's lifetime, there was only one trademark covering hardware - and that one is still alive.

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So it could well be that Amiga Inc. have given the name out on a "loan" basis...
CUSA are still many months away from delivering actual Amiga branded product. The recent 'launch' of the Amiga Mini was just a press release and photoshopped pictures.

I'm simply assuming that Barry wouldn't pay upfront, he can't be that dumb.

Edit: Just saw on c-a.org that Barry claims the Amiga Mini cases will arrive 'real soon now' (tm), so perhaps payment is due sooner than I thought.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #370 on: May 09, 2012, 05:10:20 PM »
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Actually having the dog on the board of directors is pretty Boss.


Seems Moochie is doing most of work and thinking, is only cute and non-violent being there. And so much lawyars, PRs, family ... and yet so little innovation and such campaigns. In public companies people get rotated or replaced. With private companies, it will be bossy until they declare to be out of bussiness, and LCCs are great for that because founders profit and other companies cannot be affected, just the ownership named at company - which is limited Amiga licence and probably rented Florida office.

So one day, PoooF as it came to existance, PoooF it will cease to exist.

And just silence and boycott is helpfull.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #371 on: May 09, 2012, 07:02:26 PM »
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Blue LEDs are a blight and murder on the eyes of countless innocent electronics purchasers, and anyone who uses them will be purged when the revolution comes.



CommodoreJohn doesn't **** around :rofl:

But LED's should be green'ish yellow of course, amiga style.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #372 on: May 09, 2012, 09:00:23 PM »
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Blue LEDs are a blight and murder on the eyes of countless innocent electronics purchasers, and anyone who uses them will be purged when the revolution comes.
I am keeping my green LEDed pitchfork at the ready :D.

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #373 on: May 09, 2012, 09:55:55 PM »
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Seems Moochie is doing most of work and thinking, is only cute and non-violent being there.



It says he was in a Pup-peroni (sp?) commercial. I would like to see it, I couldn't find it on Youtube though. I love dog food commercials, so much better than cat food commercials.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #374 on: May 09, 2012, 10:28:05 PM »
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I suspect this is why all the C=USA "bare bones" systems all come with blu-ray drives built-in. This way they can claim it's a disk drive, as they don't have the license to produce a case.

Great legal loophole, lets call Lorianos case Amiga 500 Replica and ship it with slim DVD, so we declare it Amiga 500 replica DVD drive

(it`s a joke, its already X500 and with no stickers, but Loraino is great example of "I can, you can"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3aVj1JOz_c
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