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Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« on: May 02, 2012, 06:13:49 PM »
I waited too long to pull the trigger on one of their "Old Stock" 1200's and now they have been out of them for some time..   Anybody have a scoop on when (or if) they may be getting more of them?
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 06:20:06 PM »
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I waited too long to pull the trigger on one of their "Old Stock" 1200's and now they have been out of them for some time..   Anybody have a scoop on when (or if) they may be getting more of them?


My guess is unless they find a cache of them hidden in some warehouse that no one knows about, they probably won't. Your best bet would be to look for a used one.

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 11:57:59 PM »
they do refurbish models, but I think the "new old stock" might be long gone.
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 12:06:08 AM »
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I waited too long to pull the trigger on one of their "Old Stock" 1200's and now they have been out of them for some time..   Anybody have a scoop on when (or if) they may be getting more of them?


I just bought a NOS US keyboard from them. It was pretty reasonable price.

You could see if they could build a refurb one with one of those... that goes a long way to making it newish.
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 03:38:32 AM »
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I waited too long to pull the trigger on one of their "Old Stock" 1200's and now they have been out of them for some time..   Anybody have a scoop on when (or if) they may be getting more of them?


there a few really nice a1200's on ebay i just saw

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-1200-4GB-Gamers-HD-3-1-Rom-mouse-NEW-Parts-Boxed-GWO-/140745713115?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item20c51925db#ht_6842wt_1068

thats not _real_ bad om the price.
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 09:03:38 PM »
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there a few really nice a1200's on ebay i just saw

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-1200-4GB-Gamers-HD-3-1-Rom-mouse-NEW-Parts-Boxed-GWO-/140745713115?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item20c51925db#ht_6842wt_1068

thats not _real_ bad om the price.


Yeah there are quite a few good ones but they are all in the UK and since I am from Wisconsin I really would like one from the US if at all possible.  (Not just the proce for shipping either...  I want NTSC and anything from the UK is PAL)   :O(

thanks for the suggestion though.  Much appreciated..
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 09:28:29 PM »
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Yeah there are quite a few good ones but they are all in the UK and since I am from Wisconsin I really would like one from the US if at all possible.  (Not just the proce for shipping either...  I want NTSC and anything from the UK is PAL)   :O(

thanks for the suggestion though.  Much appreciated..

Amigakit is in the UK. My NOS for Amigakit is PAL.

Why do you want a NTSC machine? You are not seriously going to use the composite output are you? Even so, the PAL composite has worked perfectly with the few TVs i have tried. I have never wished the machine was NTSC, in fact, I prefer PAL by default. I have a NTSC CD32 and that was a mistake. I should have bought a PAL one.

The only issue was the UK keyboard layout, which  I just replaced with a NOS US.
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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 09:29:33 PM »
We had a few hundred NTSC A1200s a few years ago, but they quickly sold out.
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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 11:21:38 PM »
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Amigakit is in the UK. My NOS for Amigakit is PAL.

Why do you want a NTSC machine? You are not seriously going to use the composite output are you? Even so, the PAL composite has worked perfectly with the few TVs i have tried. I have never wished the machine was NTSC, in fact, I prefer PAL by default. I have a NTSC CD32 and that was a mistake. I should have bought a PAL one.

The only issue was the UK keyboard layout, which  I just replaced with a NOS US.


I assumed that in the US I would need the NTSC version...  Since I am not certain exactly what the 2 standards entail I was simply playing it safe with the NTSC version...  So if I am hearing you correctly, if I were to get the 24 bit adapter being talked about on this board right now, it wouldn't matter if I used it in a PAL or NTSC version..  Is that correct?
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 12:10:57 AM »
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I assumed that in the US I would need the NTSC version...  Since I am not certain exactly what the 2 standards entail I was simply playing it safe with the NTSC version...  So if I am hearing you correctly, if I were to get the 24 bit adapter being talked about on this board right now, it wouldn't matter if I used it in a PAL or NTSC version..  Is that correct?

Basically the only downfall to having a PAL A1200 in the USA is that it probably won't be able to connect to many old tube televisions because the RF modulator will be outputting PAL video. So if you want to use it with one of those old console TVs (like the ones with the built-in record players), you may be out of luck :)

the video quality of RF output looks horrible, so I doubt you would use that as a long term solution, and composite is not much better, but most TVs will work just fine in PAL mode on the composite input.

I'm going to remove the RF modulator out of my A1200 to make room for an HDMI port anyway...

Anything connected to the RGB port should work just fine, with one exception... I can't seem to get my NTSC DCTV unit working with my PAL A1200, but i'm not sure that's not something I'm doing wrong.

The Indivision AGA 2.0 will work the same for either version of the machine, and you'll probably want to run your desktop in 640x512 PAL mode vs 640x400 NTSC for the extra 100 lines of resolution.

Keep in in mind the the Indivision is not really a 24bit framebuffer, the 24bit thing is _internal_ and is necessary in order to handle the full AGA palette which is 24Bit. There have not been any promises that the new Indivsion will handle anything other than standard Amiga video modes. That being said, you DO still want the Indivision :)
« Last Edit: May 04, 2012, 03:36:15 AM by bbond007 »
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 12:36:16 AM »
I've had bad experiences with NTSC machines running PAL software, and most amiga software is indeed PAL.

Others have found ways around it, so there's solutions.

What do you want to use your miggy for?
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2012, 01:16:18 AM »
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Does your Dell monitor do the PAL modes as well?
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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 01:19:12 AM »
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Does your Dell monitor do the PAL modes as well?


It does yeah. I use my miggy mostly for gaming and it works really well.

Scrolling isnt 100% amazing but its pretty damn good.
It sucks for interlace modes but most games dont use those though.
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2012, 01:53:35 AM »
Cant you hardware mod a a1200's Alice chip to switch between NSTC/PAL ?
 

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Re: Any idea on when AmigaKit might get 1200s in stock?
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2012, 02:06:47 AM »
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I've had bad experiences with NTSC machines running PAL software, and most amiga software is indeed PAL.

Others have found ways around it, so there's solutions.

What do you want to use your miggy for?


Not really anything of any import... I mostly want to network it with my pcs basically just for the Hell of it.  I really enjoyed my Amigas back in the 90s and just having fun messing with it.  Not really too interested in Games, just to fiddle with. Plan would be an 030 board or better and OS3.9 and as much eye candy as I can squeeze into it, making it as modern looking as possible.  Once again just for the Hell of it..

(And thanks for the info BBOND, much appreciated..   )