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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #224 on: April 20, 2012, 04:44:35 AM »
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I wonder if CUSA customers would be interested in a DeLorean mini van, or maybe a Stradivarius guitar.

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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #225 on: April 21, 2012, 12:16:53 AM »
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Yep, that would have worked a treat.  Amithlon, Bernielon, AmigaXL...  The major stumbling block seems to be them having to pay someone to do some work.


But they have been able to create few paradoxes

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All Commodore and Amiga computers fully support Ubuntu and Windows operating systems.

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all VIC, Commodore 64 and Commodore Amiga computers run CommodoreOS with Amiga Forever
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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #226 on: April 21, 2012, 08:40:04 AM »
@Darrin
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Which leaves selling "Commodore" branded x86 boxes pre-installed with Linux and/or Windows and then selling Amithlon as additional software for their online shop for the user to install as an option.
Don't you understand that Commodore USA "most likely" can't sell or even give it away from free WITH or WITHOUT one of our machines.
Dissemination is the issue within the settlement.

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all VIC, Commodore 64 and Commodore Amiga computers run CommodoreOS with Amiga Forever
I don't recall Commodore USA ever claiming that. There is a script in Commodore OS to rip ROMs and games from AmigaForever, which you would have purchased from Cloanto.
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #227 on: April 21, 2012, 10:22:59 AM »
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@Darrin

I don't recall Commodore USA ever claiming that. There is a script in Commodore OS to rip ROMs and games from AmigaForever, which you would have purchased from Cloanto.

So Amiga Forever is delivered with Amiga (Mini) only or it will wait for 20 000$ systems? Gladly have already AF 2012 :-)

The point was other. Paradox is even the VIC, C64 and Amiga lines should mimic the difference in power of old home computers being CUSA low, mid and high end series, back in the days major difference was in real hardware differences and different series of software. Now its gone since all your computers do run same Linux with major feeling quite the same and some differences in performance but since you picked Linux, even the low end machine should be able to run it quite nicely and real performance difference would be seen in pro apps, that mostly don`t exist for Linux. Another simple paradox.

Likewise running joke on not saying C=USA computers can run Windows and comes with CommodoreOS Linux is that, in relation to this community saying that all VIC, Commodore and Amiga computers can run Windows is a nonsense.

That is what you get (paradoxes) when you abuse retro name.

Off course no one will try to insert Windows or CommodoreOS to an old VIC, real C64 or Amiga, but sounds like a good joke.

For example, you can`t say we don`t own Commodore, VIC and Amiga machines, and yet we are deprived
of ability to run Windows and CommodoreOS that you so boldly claim on your website.

Someone must be pretending :-)

Also, the sentence
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All Commodore and Amiga computers fully support Ubuntu and Windows operating systems.
is also IT illiterate: The OS supports your hardware, or your provide drivers as support to the OS, and computers don`t support OS`s.

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Don't you understand that Commodore USA "most likely" can't sell or even give it away from free WITH or WITHOUT one of our machines.
Dissemination is the issue within the settlement.

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I have never had any conversation with either of
them, although there are still possibilities for collaboration, but it is not
for me to discuss these matters publicly.

AS much as I understand you never tried negotiating licence with Hyperion to have legal permission to do so. This kind of legal restrain
was part of the incomplete licence you got from Amiga Inc, so if you had general desire to do so, contacting Hyperion would come natural.
Before pretending to have "AmigaOS instead of AmigaOS" named "Workbench V". That is how you loose possibilities to create contacts, negative campaigns will always backfire.

Its more realistic to say your are not interested, or you don`t find it commercially viable, like Baron says, but add`s few high kicks to it.

Do you work as CTO from Aussieland via Internet or you do visit the Florida HQ?

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Does Mint send money to Ubuntu? No.

No, but Mint doesn`t make money on Ubuntu.

Do you intend of creating partnership with Linux Mint to provide updates to your OS? People are letting you do the rename,
and just wish to have stable contact. Since you are bundling their product, it would be good idea to create product support
from them as well as update and maintance, and support their development (as it is your own) since you do make money
on their product. And having millions of possible combinations coming from small OEM rebranders as licencees, drivers will also
become an issue as well as troubleshooting.

OK, you don`t want to support AROS as charity, but will you support Linux you have chosen?

Since there is a PowerPC Mint what do you think of CommodoreOS minimal install (as not all x86 apps are ported to PowerPC)
that would support AmigaOne X1000, SAM 460, SAM 440, PegII and MacMini? Are you interested in providing or even
selling cheap but strong Linux distro for Amiga PowerPC systems?

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Ask yourself how we can possibly be responsible for the hardware that
independent system vendors place within these barebones units or the
quality of their assembly. If we hear they are selling substandard
equipment, or in any way causing harm to consumers or the brands,
we will no longer fulfil their barebones orders.

This is weakest point of the idea to have free worldwide distribution and wider range of choices (as well as lower prices).
there is no real quality control and issues will arise. Also, limits are imposed by chosen Linux distro and distributors
that don`t have enough Linux knowledge. Many problems can arise, and complying to customer report (assuming
he knows where to report) will not reduce damage already done.

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Incidentally Commodore OS has a Dopus Megellan clone pre-installed
as standard already. Ironic, that we already have it, and a much more
refined version at that.

What is the Dopus Magellan clone we aren`t aware of?
Having any file manager isn`t a Dopus Magellan clone.

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Yes, it’s called Windows, you may have heard of it.

Please take PR and get rid of such stupid sentences that are supposed either to laugh
or educate us. No, we haven`t heard of it, it must be new Commodore product.

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I do believe however that the most vocal
critics are just spiteful of our success, to the point of their vitriol
reaching a level of absurdity.;

Do you really believe its just envy and not common sense in seeing many mistakes
CommodoreUSA has done down the road? What success, in buying Amiga Inc licence and website?

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It must be also realised that the majority of Amiga owners were solely
games players, using their Amigas in a similar fashion to consoles, and
while they may have used the machines for some other purposes now
and then, do not have any particular allegiance to the operating
system or chips in the machine, but loved the brand just the same.

They loved gaming experience on it provided by hardware and at least
knew there is special hardware in it and OS that is better then Windows 3.11
(everyone booted WB). However, it was not the games but productivity apps
that have made Amiga name as serious creativity macine. Games were just up
to the console and arcade experience. If Amiga was only associated with games,
why your machines aren`t consoles or don`t come with joysticks and few games?

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I went on to estimate that various configurations of such a
machine could cost as much as $25,000. Obviously, such collaboration
has not yet occurred, nor will we produce a mainstream Commodore
Amiga machine that would cost anywhere near that amount. To think
so is crazy, but yet again, what I have said has been taken out of
context and applied to the propaganda purposes of a small yet vocal
minority.

So now there never was a promise of 25 000$ Amigas. It is taken out of
context for propaganda. Good to know. Admitting mistakes would be nicer,
that you estimated such high league sales might even worsen.

So you as CTO claim this was also only our imagination?

Denial seems to be Barry`s strongest defense mechanism.
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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #228 on: April 21, 2012, 11:21:17 AM »
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OK, you don`t want to support AROS as charity, but will you support Linux you have chosen?

it is clearly cusa dont want to give any money to linux mint either. they choose it because it was free, for them to exploit and use as they wanted. so they could sell it with their 20 000$ systems. it is as simple as that, you can forget support cusa aint running a charity after all. barry only want to fill his pockets with cash and there ends his interests in anything amiga to, he have made that perfectly clear in this q&a.
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #229 on: April 21, 2012, 11:30:59 AM »
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@VOX

it is clearly cusa dont want to give any money to linux mint either. they choose it because it was free, for them to exploit and use as they wanted. so they could sell it with their 20 000$ systems. it is as simple as that, you can forget support cusa aint running a charity after all. barry only want to fill his pockets with cash and there ends his interests in anything amiga to, he have made that perfectly clear in this q&a.


Agreed, "play new, use free". But on worldwide conquest, you need to support what you claim is your own OS, and what when you are unable to do so?

Leaving users without software and hardware support is again not only immoral but breaking the customer protection laws anywhere in civilized world.

Never seen someone who doesn`t want to invest, but only to gain.
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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #230 on: April 21, 2012, 12:16:38 PM »
Off topic. Amiga.org just crashed. Here's what came up if anyones interested:


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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #231 on: April 21, 2012, 12:17:53 PM »
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Leaving users without software and hardware support is again not only immoral but breaking the customer protection laws anywhere in civilized world.



but then again barry can just say 'install windows if you don't like our commodoreos' and he is free of any responsibility...
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #232 on: April 21, 2012, 01:44:04 PM »
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Leaving users without software and hardware support is again not only immoral but breaking the customer protection laws anywhere in civilized world.

Then you should be glad to be told you are wrong.  Tech support is given for hardware and COS.  I've been in the office when a C=USA customer calls up and is walked through a resolution of his tech problem.  Leo is online and answers many a COS or tech question from emails and on commodore-amiga.org posts.

Now will you admit your wrong?
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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #233 on: April 21, 2012, 04:09:12 PM »
No Amiga Forever included? How can the Amiga Mini even be called an Amiga if it gives no provision to run Amiga software even emulated out of the box.
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #234 on: April 21, 2012, 04:24:34 PM »
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Don't you understand that Commodore USA "most likely" can't sell or even give it away from free WITH or WITHOUT one of our machines.
Dissemination is the issue within the settlement.


Time to stop abusing the Amiga name then and stick to selling Linux PCs.

How much of your own money have you "invested" in this?  I'd bail out now if I was you.
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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #235 on: April 21, 2012, 04:26:22 PM »
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Then you should be glad to be told you are wrong.  Tech support is given for hardware and COS.  I've been in the office when a C=USA customer calls up and is walked through a resolution of his tech problem.  Leo is online and answers many a COS or tech question from emails and on commodore-amiga.org posts.

Now will you admit your wrong?


Someone answering the phone when they happen to be in the office isn't "24 hour technical support".

The CTO should be the Tech Support guy either.  I guess it was either Leo or Barry.

Strange how you spend so much time in their office for a non-employee...
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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #236 on: April 21, 2012, 04:29:30 PM »
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No Amiga Forever included? How can the Amiga Mini even be called an Amiga if it gives no provision to run Amiga software even emulated out of the box.


That's anew isn't it?  It has always been "suggested" that the full version of Mint (sorry, I mean COS) was fully licenced and contained everything you need to legally run the emulators.  Now we discover that it is no better than downloading UAE off the internet.

Of course C-USA can state that they never promised anything different and this was their plan all along because they use "non-employees" to make "unofficial statements" which sound like "official statements" so that there is no legal comeback.
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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #237 on: April 21, 2012, 04:47:50 PM »
It doesn't even included the Value Edition of Amiga Forever? Now that's what I call being cheap!
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #238 on: April 21, 2012, 04:50:18 PM »
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It doesn't even included the Value Edition of Amiga Forever? Now that's what I call being cheap!


It must be due to their tight profit margins based on their extremely low mark-ups.  There's no spare cash.
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Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers
« Reply #239 from previous page: April 21, 2012, 04:58:35 PM »
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It doesn't even included the Value Edition of Amiga Forever? Now that's what I call being cheap!

barry just found winuae on the internet and stuffed it in there with the mint linux, then rip the roms. i doubt he have any license at all to use it.