MorphOS ahead of AROS?

[Crumb]

@Mazze

Transparent m68k emulation: I can copy any old amiga filesystem to L: and use directly partitions in that format, e.g. PFS3. I can copy any datatype and all my native apps will use them. It really feels integrated, not like running in a separate box (I prefer that). For old m68k games I double click them and the ADF is launched if EUAE is installed. For launching m68k apps Fab included another config (haven't used it as most serious apps run directly)
Wide variety of available filesystems: fat, NTFS, ext2, 3G, all m68k ones...
Great desktop: Ambient, miles ahead from Wanderer or WB.
MUI4: IMHO the best Amiga toolkit
CGX: ahead from P96. Does AROS still lack overlay?.
Console: MUICON is simply great. AROS console is pretty basic
HD Tools: Partition tools, recovery tools, mounting tools are great. Is there any AROS file recovery tool? (just curious, I don't know)
OS4/WOS/PUP compatibility: AROS doesn't have that.
Latest OWB&MPlayer: Fab rules. MorphOS versions are the most complete and stable ones.
Nice SDK: I prefer MorphOS SDK editors
Good translations (spanish one is on sync with other languages) ;-)

[Iggy]

@Mazze
OS4/WOS/PUP compatibility: AROS doesn't have that.

Good points all, except maybe that one.

[AmigaNG]

Sorry Aros community for apparently starting this debate.

Personally for me, I don't care how old apps are handled as long as the machine can run them, the easier the better. I have no problem in how aros is handling this, in fact the main reason I stayed interested in Amiga and kept wanting a dedicated New Amiga machine is largly because I had winuae on my pc that kept reminding me that their was and use to be a better way of doing things.

May be this is a bit daft but I will admit to it, one of the reason I got amigaone x1000 is because I didn't see the future of Amiga as buying a second hand apple product or a second hand pc. Daft, stupid, maybe but I like the fact that custom hardware is made for Amigaos, would I like it to be more advance, yes, would I liked to have been cheaper, yes, would I liked more classic features on it, ie classic joystick port and castWeasel mk4 built in on board, yes but I understand the limitation of what is possible.

I got aros about 6 months befor my x1000 for my acer aspire one, and was very impressive with how finished and complete it felt and it nearly put me off getting the Amigaone, I even started thinking image if I put the £2000 in to the aros community to advance their efforts. In the end I felt "well tried that it not quite what I'm after, I will get my x1000, give os4 it's chance, see how I get on, i can sell it if it doesn't impressive me and build a aros machine with the money" so far os4 has won me over, but aros is a lot closer than I thought and is only getting better each year, but now I can enjoy both systems and os. Hell maybe even one day I might end up gettting a Morphos machine. Their no reason why can't support both os.

So my point is at the end of the day if one of my friends wanted a Amiga experices today (they all have pc) the first thing I get them is actually winuae setup if they wanted more or a dedicated machine then aros, because its free and it's what they already have, generally most people don't have an old ppc mac lying around, if they did, of course I recommend Morphos. If they enjoyed that and where big fans of Amiga and had a bit of spare cash then os4, but very rearly is that going to happen wich is why I do feel that aros has the big advantage

[takemehomegrandma]

@AmigaNG

There is absolutely no reason for you to apologize for anything, especially not for recommending people to get AROS. Even the thought of that is crazy, of course you have every right to do so in this free world if that is your opinion. But also I should have the rights to express my opinion that MorphOS brings a far better Amiga NG experience than AROS on an old PC (I'm actually quite convinced that *no* MorphOS user (and no OS4 user either for that matter) would accept to *completely* replace their systems with AROS, it's simply not the same thing, it plays in a different league), and that PPC Mac's aren't very expensive either (often costing between 20-200 dollars) without HenryCase insinuating that I am causing hate threads against AROS, which obviously isn't true.

This is ridiculous. What's wrong with people on amiga.org these days (and no, I am not talking about you), it seems it's getting worse by the hour... :crazy:

[XDelusion]

This conversation is still going on?

I thought we had settled this and decided DOS was the way of the future?

[haywirepc]

Don't laugh, freedos rocks!

http://www.freedos.org

Was I the only bitter one when he realized you HAD to use windows eventually?

Dos was good. DRDOS was awesome. Windows is what was ****ty.

Steven

[Iggy]

This conversation is still going on?

I thought we had settled this and decided DOS was the way of the future?

Two days later, I check in, and yep its still going on. WTF?

@AmigaNG

There is absolutely no reason for you to apologize for anything,  especially not for recommending people to get AROS. Even the thought of  that is crazy, of course you have every right to do so in this free  world if that is your opinion. But also I should have the rights to  express my opinion that MorphOS brings a far better Amiga NG experience  than AROS on an old PC (I'm actually quite convinced that *no* MorphOS  user (and no OS4 user either for that matter) would accept to  *completely* replace their systems with AROS, it's simply not the same  thing, it plays in a different league), and that PPC Mac's aren't very  expensive either (often costing between 20-200 dollars) without  HenryCase insinuating that I am causing hate threads against AROS, which  obviously isn't true.

This is ridiculous. What's wrong with people on amiga.org these days  (and no, I am not talking about you), it seems it's getting worse by the  hour... :crazy:

Hey, I got slammed pretty hard for this too (apparently I'm a troll and I didn't even know it).
And I use both OS'.
Can I help it if, at this stage of development, I prefer MorphOS?

And, as to the state of our community, we're losing people over the lack of civility here.
AmigaDave asked Transition to delete his account last week.
I haven't seen a post from Redrumloa in awhile (although he's on MorphZone quite often).
We're getting a little too polarized and too argumentative.

Have I mentioned that I support all three NG OS' and can sympathize with those holding on to legacy systems?

[Manu]

And I was called a child.



I will never post here again...

[Iggy]

And I was called a child.



I will never post here again...

Yeah, me neither. :laugh1:
Hey Manu, I've been playing around with my AROS system (which I would add to my signature, but then it wouldn't fit within the space limitation).
There's a fair amount of software out there for this OS.
I was surprised.
Then again, thanks to Xdelusion, I've been checking out Haiku and it too has a lot of software written for it (and both still beta, amazing).

[XDelusion]

Don't laugh, freedos rocks!

http://www.freedos.org

Was I the only bitter one when he realized you HAD to use windows eventually?

Dos was good. DRDOS was awesome. Windows is what was ****ty.

Steven

FreeDOS does rock!

[Iggy]

FreeDOS does rock!

Can you make a boot floppy with it for BIOS flashing?

Currently I boot my machines with a Win98 CD to a command prompt to do this, but it would be simpler if I could just have the flashing software and BIOS file on the same floppy I boot with.

[XDelusion]

Can you make a boot floppy with it for BIOS flashing?

Currently I boot my machines with a Win98 CD to a command prompt to do this, but it would be simpler if I could just have the flashing software and BIOS file on the same floppy I boot with.

Prolly... Though I use USB drives to flash my machines.

[Digiman]

even for torrents many ps3 users use vlc to transcode the video and stream it to thier ps3's instead of filling up the hard drive.   You know the ps3 you might have heard of it?   there's 1 or 2 people who own one.  Just because you are to simple to do it doesn't mean it's not a popular feature.

Hmmm no. People like Bricktop and PS3team etc on tpb regularly do PS3 and 360 friendly 4.37gb "burn n go" BDRIPS on various sites, which you just pop in the DVD/BD drive and enjoy the film

I doubt less than 1% of PS3 owners do it the VLC way.

As for controls many are required, I use Zoom player because it has far more useful "extras" like per pixel H or V zoom/adjustment, and then there are the exhaustive FFDshow 7.1 audio controls. VLC is more king in the Linux world or for people who haven't installed codec pack. I only use it to play broken files or test to make sure I don't have a codec problem for zplayer and it is actually media file problem. Don't even use it to play Amiga mods. The full screen interface is annoying!

[Digiman]

I can not believe you guys are still going on about this!

Especially as he is the only person not using flash memory or DVDr to play the films like everyone else does :lol:

[Iggy]

Especially as he is the only person not using flash memory or DVDr to play the films like everyone else does :lol:

Funny, right before checking back on this thread I was playing back a ripped copy of a Godzilla movie (don't worry, I actually own a DVD of it).

I don't use DRDrs too much.

BTW - Its scary how much old programs like DVDdecrypter still work on.

[Terminills]

Especially as he is the only person not using flash memory or DVDr to play the films like everyone else does :lol:

your time must not be worth much.