MiamiDX and Airport Base

[Reflex]

Hello,

I decided to use My Airport Extreme Base to extend my wireless internet connection to all the computers I have at home.
Then I plugged my beloved Amiga 4000PPC + Mediator and Ethernet PCI board to the aiport base.
The aiport base receive the internet signal wifi and the Amiga is supposed to receive the signal through it.

The Macbook connects wifi to the base and go online without problems but the amiga don't.

I set MiamiDX this way:
Device: FastEthernet.device
Type: Ethernet
IP Type: DHCP
NetMask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: Airport Base IP (PRI 10)
Multicast: Disabled

when I press (online) miami try to by after some seconds it tells me that "Miami Deluxe is unable to determine your local IP address"

What's wrong?

[bbond007]

Hello,

I decided to use My Airport Extreme Base to extend my wireless internet connection to all the computers I have at home.
Then I plugged my beloved Amiga 4000PPC + Mediator and Ethernet PCI board to the aiport base.
The aiport base receive the internet signal wifi and the Amiga is supposed to receive the signal through it.

The Macbook connects wifi to the base and go online without problems but the amiga don't.

I set MiamiDX this way:
Device: FastEthernet.device
Type: Ethernet
IP Type: DHCP
NetMask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: Airport Base IP (PRI 10)
Multicast: Disabled

when I press (online) miami try to by after some seconds it tells me that "Miami Deluxe is unable to determine your local IP address"

What's wrong?

I guess you are using WEP? Sounds like you just have encryption problem if it did work before. Anyway, I have heard of MiamiDX having DHCP issues with some routers, so you can also try and manually set your ip address, netmask, gateway, and see if that gets things working.

Oh sorry, I misunderstood. Still, try and set the IP address manually...

[Reflex]

I guess you are using WEP? Sounds like you just have encryption problem if it did work before. Anyway, I have heard of MiamiDX having DHCP issues with some routers, so you can also try and manually set your ip address, netmask, gateway, and see if that gets things working.

Oh sorry, I misunderstood. Still, try and set the IP address manually...

no it didn't work before. My amiga have been not surfing the web since 2005

Anyway yes it has a WEP/WPA passwordto protect the hard disk that is on the USB port.

The problem is that I don't know the IP number that is assigned to the amiga!

[magnetic]

reflex

If running  miamidx use shell command: ifconfig

(or ipconfig) forget

this will give you your ip address (read miami dx docs)

[Reflex]

reflex

If running  miamidx use shell command: ifconfig

(or ipconfig) forget

this will give you your ip address (read miami dx docs)

sorry... it looks like I have not such a command on my amiga!

[magnetic]

Reflex

You need to be in Miami: directory


so open shell and type:

Miami:
then
ifconfig

and again Read the Miami dox

Also mac routers dont behave well with non apple machines/os from my experience. I had the extreme airport and it didnt like the pcs one of the laptops couldnt even connect to it try to hardline it into the router see what happens as Miami DX DHCP very good. I'm using that tcp/ip stack with my a1200 and a Dlink wifi n router with DHCP no problem

*Did you try Miami INIT? If not do so now *

[bbond007]

The problem is that I don't know the IP number that is assigned to the amiga!

the problem is your amiga is not getting an ip address.

your router will typically be like 192.168.1.1 and it will assign like 192x168.1.100 - 150 or something via DHCP. just pick a number that is not in DHCP range, like 192.168.1.33 or something.

[weiseb]

MiamiDX has miami in front of all tools
so its miamiifconfig

[Reflex]

Reflex

You need to be in Miami: directory


so open shell and type:

Miami:
then
ifconfig

and again Read the Miami dox

Also mac routers dont behave well with non apple machines/os from my experience. I had the extreme airport and it didnt like the pcs one of the laptops couldnt even connect to it try to hardline it into the router see what happens as Miami DX DHCP very good. I'm using that tcp/ip stack with my a1200 and a Dlink wifi n router with DHCP no problem

*Did you try Miami INIT? If not do so now *

I'm not that Dumb.

1) Miami init behave the same way. It isn't able to find IP addresses

2) I tried that command Miamiifconfig... well I tried all the commands I found in Miami directory but with no result.

[Reflex]

the problem is your amiga is not getting an ip address.

your router will typically be like 192.168.1.1 and it will assign like 192x168.1.100 - 150 or something via DHCP. just pick a number that is not in DHCP range, like 192.168.1.33 or something.

In fact the router has 192.168.1.1 as IP address, airport base has 192.168.1.110 and the macbook 192.168.1.104.
Why do you believe that putting a random IP address will solve the problem? isn't the IP address chosen by the router?

maybe do I have to set a manually configured routes?

[Thomas]

Why do you believe that putting a random IP address will solve the problem?

Because every device on the network needs a unique IP address. It does not work without one.

isn't the IP address chosen by the router?

Many modern devices are able to ask the router for a dynamic IP address. But if this does not work like in your case, you have to give it a static address. Just choose one which no other device already has.

[Reflex]

Because every device on the network needs a unique IP address. It does not work without one.




Many modern devices are able to ask the router for a dynamic IP address. But if this does not work like in your case, you have to give it a static address. Just choose one which no other device already has.

I knew that every device on the network needs to have a unique IP address but I believed that you have to use the same IP address that the Router assign to your device otherwise it will not work.
Anyway I tried using IP 192.168.1.200 and it didn't work too

[bbond007]

In fact the router has 192.168.1.1 as IP address, airport base has 192.168.1.110 and the macbook 192.168.1.104.
Why do you believe that putting a random IP address will solve the problem? isn't the IP address chosen by the router?

maybe do I have to set a manually configured routes?

Because I understand networking, or at least 15 years ago I did. you don't apparently.... Its the first step ANYONE would tell you. Its not a randomly chosen IP.

Its an IP address that IS on your subnet (assuming you have a typical class c address) that is NOT in your DHCP range.

There is a good chance your router and MIAMI are simply incompatible as far as DHCP. Hell, my Miami setup fails to get an IP address probably randomly 10% of the time... DHCP is not required and your Amiga will work just as well, with a STATIC IP.

Maybe the others will help, but i will provide no further assistance until you at least TRY what I say.

[JuMa]

I knew that every device on the network needs to have a unique IP address but I believed that you have to use the same IP address that the Router assign to your device otherwise it will not work.
Anyway I tried using IP 192.168.1.200 and it didn't work too

Router won't assign an IP for your device if device doesn't ask for it (static ip is configured).

I think you should be able to use static ip for amiga. Even if DHCP is enabled on router. Give Amiga an IP address that is outside of routers IP pool (not sure if absolutely necessary), but on the same subnet. Use same subnet mask and default gateway that you mac is using so you know they are correct.

[bbond007]

I knew that every device on the network needs to have a unique IP address but I believed that you have to use the same IP address that the Router assign to your device otherwise it will not work.
Anyway I tried using IP 192.168.1.200 and it didn't work too

ok, thats good... now that you have assigned a static IP, try and issue the command

ping 192.168.1.1 (or whatever your router is)

if you get a response then you'll need to also manually set your DNS to your router, or openDNS 8.8.8.8 (i think) and you are good to go...

If you don't get a response (and you have done everything correctly) then I guess you'll need to get a different router because nobody is going to fix MIAMI's flaky DHCP at this point....

good luck