X1000 - what do you think of this

[Piru]

If owner is willing to open the case (and loose the guaranty like everywhere)

I've never heard of opening the computer case to terminate a warranty. In fact, even swapping the cards don't terminate it. All these operations are regular maintenance and expected events in the lifetime of a computer. Of course if you botch up and break something, fixing that won't be under warranty.

[Iggy]

Thanks Hans,
Nice insight.
I was actually pretty impressed at how quickly the HD driver progressed.

[SysAdmin]

I've never heard of opening the computer case to terminate a warranty. In fact, even swapping the cards don't terminate it. All these operations are regular maintenance and expected events in the lifetime of a computer. Of course if you botch up and break something, fixing that won't be under warranty.

In fact there are cases of this. Our brand new in house Quantum Computer's warranty is voided if the case is opened or even if you breath too hard on the case. We have to be very very gentle with her.

[wawrzon]

@transition:
figures. perhaps thats why a customer shouldnt swap gfx cards within a x1k. the machine could disappear back into a fictive alternate reality.

[Darrin]

I've never heard of opening the computer case to terminate a warranty. In fact, even swapping the cards don't terminate it. All these operations are regular maintenance and expected events in the lifetime of a computer. Of course if you botch up and break something, fixing that won't be under warranty.

Sorry, buy I've seen many cases of this where the manufacturers even place holographic stickers on the computers to detect if the case has been opened.

I guess the theory is that while it is under their warranty they don't want you messing with it, but once it has run out then feel free to bugger it up to your heart's content.

[Iggy]

Sorry, buy I've seen many cases of this where the manufacturers even place holographic stickers on the computers to detect if the case has been opened.

I guess the theory is that while it is under their warranty they don't want you messing with it, but once it has run out then feel free to bugger it up to your heart's content.

Which explains why I have never bought a pre-assembled computer even though I've been using computers since the 70's.

[wawrzon]

@darrin:
do i guess right, that these manufacturers you are talking about, usually supply the customer with setups that are not fully supported in therms of drivers until the warranty expires? its self explanatory, the customer must not modify the setup to gain better functionality in this case, other than on his own risk.

[Hans_]

Sorry, buy I've seen many cases of this where the manufacturers even place holographic stickers on the computers to detect if the case has been opened.

I guess the theory is that while it is under their warranty they don't want you messing with it, but once it has run out then feel free to bugger it up to your heart's content.

It's much easier to prove/disprove if something broke due to a manufacturing defect if users keep their mits out of the case.

Hans

[Hans_]

@darrin:
do i guess right, that these manufacturers you are talking about, usually supply the customer with setups that are not fully supported in therms of drivers until the warranty expires? its self explanatory, the customer must not modify the setup to gain better functionality in this case, other than on his own risk.

This is irrelevant, as the customers were fully informed on what they were buying, and what functionality would arrive later. If someone opens up their computer and damages it in the process, then that damage falls outside the warranty. This is a risk that is worth reminding people of. While I have never damaged a computer while swapping hardware or connecting it, I have seen plenty of reports of people who have.**

Hans

** In the most extreme case, I remember reading complaints from a guy who managed to rip a chip socket off a motherboard. Needless to say, the warranty didn't cover that!

[wawrzon]

@hans:

It's much easier to prove/disprove if something broke due to a manufacturing defect if users keep their mits out of the case.

who knows. i wasnt able to fry much hardware due to own fault. well. i have damaged a perfectly working a1200 board dropping a screwdriver on it and causing a short but it was twenty years ago and thats about all i can think of. i usually dont even close my pc case and testing aros68k now im swapping the hardware in my a4000s almost hot since at least about a year.

but then, given the whole amount of hardware trouble the users have with their a1s and sams its probably really better to keep the customers at the safe distance. admittedly its very difficult to thell who is at fault here.

[wawrzon]

This is irrelevant, as the customers were fully informed on what they were buying

that really tells us something about the crowd, right?

[klx300r]

J.. Also, no tinkering - I thought part of the "Amiga spirit" was tinkering, but then again this is an AmigaOne. I dunno, for $3K just doesn't seem like that great a deal.

ah good ol jorkany always so interested in everything related to new hardware and software related to AmigaOS4.x;)

Once sound and ethernet drivers are available for Nemo then 2 slots are open....I've got my catweasel and TV card ready and waiting

thank you for ALWAYS contributing to every single AmigaOS4.x related thread and starting this one:rolleyes:

[wawrzon]

@klx300r
ah btw hows timberwolf doing? is it under daily usage already on your os4 setup? ive heard its much better than the previous alpha.. i mean we, sitting on the fence, always keep our eyes on that stuff.

[Iggy]

@klx300r
ah btw hows timberwolf doing? is it under daily usage already on your os4 setup? ive heard its much better than the previous alpha.. i mean we, sitting on the fence, always keep our eyes on that stuff.

OOO..That was just mean.
Besides, they've still got OWB (even if they had to get one of our developers to update it for them).

[wawrzon]

@iggy
remember owb is alien and not "amiga" native software. or have you not heard that one before?

[Iggy]

@iggy
remember owb is alien and not "amiga" native software. or have you not heard that one before?

Yeah, far too often and with similar sentiments from the MOS community.
Its not "native", it relies on something we don't have (Java et al), its too big, there isn't anyone willing to commit time to it, and that last big one...we need to start a bounty.

Argh! Time to brush up on the coding skills a just do it myself.