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[lempkee]

Does this use Reaction or MUI ?

Not Mui atleast :-)

[cha05e90]

Does this use Reaction or MUI ?

It uses non of them.

[slayer]

:hammer:

[takemehomegrandma]

Does this use Reaction or MUI ?

AFAIK, it uses its own alien GUI, not Reaction, not MUI, not anything else native on Amiga...

[billt]

AFAIK, it uses its own alien GUI, not Reaction, not MUI, not anything else native on Amiga...

Where was that said?

[Karlos]

AFAIK, it uses its own alien GUI, not Reaction, not MUI, not anything else native on any desktop platform...

There, I fixed it for you Mozilla has had it's own abstract UI components since, well, forever. On some systems, these can be wrapped around the native GUI and improve the sense of integration (more often than not, it's just themed that way). BOOPSI, with it's slightly unusual dispatch engine and support for runtime-defined classes etc. isn't always the easiest UI to wrap around.

[takemehomegrandma]

There, I fixed it for you

So *IT IS* using an Amiga Native UI, and not its own?

[Duce]

Works very well, was pleasantly surprised - a massive step in my books in general day to day usability for this wee little SAM 440ep machine I have.

Very good work, many thanks!

[Karlos]

So *IT IS* using an Amiga Native UI, and not its own?

Not quite sure how you interpreted my post that way. It is using its own UI components (someone please correct me if that's not the case). I simply pointed out the simple fact that it does this on most, if not all, platforms. On some systems, the system-dependent layer may implement the UI components using those provided by the OS. I doubt if that would be the case here as BOOPSI based gadgets can be awkward to wrap.

[cha05e90]

So *IT IS* using an Amiga Native UI, and not its own?

Depends. Please define "native"... :-) In principle it uses the Amiga native port of XUL - which was btw one of the reasons for makiing this port, 'cos with a native running XUL enviroment it is possible to port other stuff more easy. In itself it utilizes of course native API like graphics.library, intuition.library, BOOPSI, maybe cairo etc. - so it doesn't depend on a specific GUI *toolkit* like MUI or Reaction. Just plain, unwrapped OS functions (this is all AFAIK and might be partly wrong...) which translate the GUI descriptions from XUL into a user interface.

[takemehomegrandma]

Not quite sure how you interpreted my post that way.

Jose asked if it used MUI or Reaction, and I answered neither, it's using its own, alien GUI that's not native to Amiga. You felt the need to correct this for some reason (by basicly just repeating what I just said, which is strange), but looking at the screenshot, it seems like the only Amiga UI part is the outer window border, then inside this is like a huge square, filled from left to right, up to down, where the content and GUI of an alien kind is rendered, not looking one bit like Amiga. Even the scroll bar to the right is inside this rendered field, and not part of the Amiga window. It has some "File, Edit, View, etc" menus at the top, just like you would expect on a Windows or Linux system, but not Amiga. The tabs doesn't look Amiga, nothing looks Amiga. Nothing that is rendered inside the outer Amiga window, has anything to do with Amiga UI styles, looks and feel. It's like looking at a remote Windows screen in that Amiga window. That's all I tried to say. So to answer Jose's question once again - No, it's neither using Reaction (the OS4 native UI), nor is it using MUI (the MorphOS native UI), it's using its own custom, non-Amiga UI. Hope that clarifies it a bit!

[cha05e90]

not looking one bit like Amiga...has anything to do with Amiga UI styles, looks and feel.

Ah - ok, this is your definition of "native" GUI (in regards of my post above). Yes, then it's not native - I have the same feeling when I fire up Imagine or Vista Pro every now and then - totally un-Amiga... :-)

[wawrzon]

timberwolf needs as far as i understood own, non-amiga, so objects. i wonder if the solution to port it wasnt simply an linux emulator, simple virtual machine running eventually on another core. is the window dynamically resizeable at all?

[cha05e90]

is the window dynamically resizeable at all?

You haven't read my post, didn't you? Of course it's resizable like any other AmigaOS window - it's plane graphics. and intuition.library stuff - so what did you expect?

[Tripitaka]

It's like looking at a remote Windows screen in that Amiga window.

Best you get skinning then. Then again, why do you care? Your a MOS man are you not.

[Karlos]

Jose asked if it used MUI or Reaction, and I answered neither, it's using its own, alien GUI that's not native to Amiga. You felt the need to correct this for some reaso...n

I clarified it. You make it sound as if the "alien" non-amiga GUI is somehow a (negative) feature only of the OS4 port. It isn't. It uses it's own UI components no matter which platform it is running on. There is an underlying, cross-platform portability layer upon which the browser and other mozilla products are built. Firefox's UI may look more "native" on other operating systems, but more often than not, that's just appropriate skinning.