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amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« on: February 14, 2012, 02:29:44 AM »
Ive had my amiga for about 6 months now. Anyway  I had some friends come over yesterday, and i was showing them my various antiques and vintage stuff. When i went to power up the amiga 2000, all i got was a yellow screen with rapidly moving diagonal black lines. The harddrive light didnt come on, and it wont respond to a floppy disk in the drive.  What in the world happened?
 

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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 02:34:33 AM »
Strange. Open it up and carefully reseat any cards or socketed chips. Also check for battery damage and make sure your power supply is healthy.
 

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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 03:06:20 AM »
could be 68000 cpu needs cleaning plus socket needs cleaning.  battery leak???
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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 01:07:49 PM »
Well I think I found the problem.... The battery leaked and some of the acid got on the pins of the processor, and it's all corroded. So that's going to need cleaning.  Where can I get a replacement battery?
 

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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 01:21:00 PM »
The most common solution for a leaking battery is to remove the bad one and don't replace it at all.  A battery isn't necessary on the Amiga.  If you insist on having a battery, look on ebay and get a kit to install the common "coin" shaped battery.
 

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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 01:21:12 PM »
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Well I think I found the problem.... The battery leaked and some of the acid got on the pins of the processor, and it's all corroded. So that's going to need cleaning.  Where can I get a replacement battery?


You only need the battery if you want the 2000 to keep the date/time when it's turned off. If you have any other Amiga's make sure you remove the battery before it destroys the motherboard.
 

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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 01:21:17 PM »
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Well I think I found the problem.... The battery leaked and some of the acid got on the pins of the processor, and it's all corroded. So that's going to need cleaning.  Where can I get a replacement battery?


http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=A500%2B+%2F+A1500+%2F+A2000+CLOCK+BATTERY+%28Ni-MH%29

Firstly i would remove the old battery and clean up the mess and get it working again. The A2000 will work fine without a battery. I had removed mine before it leaked and never bothered replacing it. My A2000 works fine.

Make sure you really clean out the mess using a good PCB cleaner. Then they say it is also good to use some sort of lemon juice or something to kill the corrosion.

Get a DMM and check the traces to make sure none are damaged. I had an A500 Plus where the battery leaked and damaged a trace. Managed to fix it by soldering a wire from one point to the other.
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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 01:25:12 PM »
Ok, thanks for the info!  I'll just remove the battery and clean the PC board.  The clock feature doesn't really matter to me.
 

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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 02:00:43 PM »
I would also carefully remove the processor and clean the socket and pins using the PCB cleaner. And maybe use some lemon juice to neutralize the acid.
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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2012, 01:26:55 AM »
Well, I took it apart, removed the battery and cleaned the cpu pins and socket.  I used lemon juice as well to get rid of the acid.  It still doesn't work...
 

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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 01:33:46 AM »
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Well, I took it apart, removed the battery and cleaned the cpu pins and socket.  I used lemon juice as well to get rid of the acid.  It still doesn't work...


You used a ph 2.3 acid to clean up acid damage?
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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 06:26:00 AM »
Do the tracks look damaged ?
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 09:46:52 AM »
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You used a ph 2.3 acid to clean up acid damage?


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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2012, 10:16:48 AM »
I would check the tracks / traces around the area were the battery acid leaked using a digital multimeter to check for continuity. If any are damaged you could try bridging them using single core wire. I had to fix an A500 plus that way after its battery leaked.
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Re: amiga 2000 suddenly dead, what happened?
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 01:12:19 PM »
I checked the traces, theyre fine.  However, this morning, I powered up the amiga, and now im getting a green screen.