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Offline Optimus

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #135 on: July 03, 2012, 11:14:15 PM »
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@Optimus
 
Excellent links and research. I'll bring this up in the next video, and no I don't necessarily "Feel" better, but at least you did your homework and showed where I could have built roughly the same computer for less. It's ok though, because as I've said in previous forums, I'LL be the guinea pig for all of you, to see if this computer is worth getting, if it lives up to the sacred Amiga name (I'll tell you all honestly in the video after I've researched the OS) and if it's a good multi-OS machine. I can kind of understand now why some of you hate CUSA, but like I said in the video, I'll give any company a chance to they screw me over. No buying this machine at a nice sized profit is not screwing me over - that was my fault for not doing research and simply wanting to buy a different flavored "Amiga" machine. Thanks.
 
Ed
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I don't mean to make this personal, you at least seem to want to be objective.
 
Barry wants people to buy this to feel special and that they have bought an elite PC. They have deleted posts over at c-a.org when people have tried to share this information.
 
Ordinarily, a legitimate dealer would buy OEM components at wholesale, build the PC and mark it up to the retail price of the components, plus perhaps a small additional profit. They would do so up front and have the computer in stock. You have to do this to compete in the PC market.
 
Barry, by his own admission in the interview over here, marks it up to retail and then doubles the price (he claims he is being just like Apple).
 
When he first released the Amiga Mini, it was double the price plus $500.
 
Add to that he doesn't ever stock anything , waits for a few orders to pile up, then goes and buys the parts in bulk and assembles them.
 
Meanwhile, he rains down excuses why he can't deliver. When he posted in Early May (when 6 weeks were over and people wanted to know what the status was) that he was shipping next week, what the heck could have possibly made it take over a month?
 
When he emailed the picture of the first Mini cases and claimed they would be making hundreds per day, did you believe it?
 
He likes to claim people are close to libel and slander when they criticize him. Reality is his puffery borders on fraud.
 
Perhaps you will be perfectly happy with your purchase , and that's fine. You weren't screwed, just worked over by a furniture salesman.
 
But, I want people to go into this with both eyes open.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 05:16:48 PM by Optimus »
 

Offline persia

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #136 on: July 04, 2012, 02:35:41 PM »
Yeah, C=USA has turned out to be no better than the dozens of Commodore and AMiga companies that have sprang up over the years.
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Offline number6

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #137 on: July 05, 2012, 04:50:22 PM »
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Yeah, for multiple reasons. Looked like nice small factor computer with Commodore OS Fusion (Yes, that's what I have pre-installed, not Vision),



Although I saw the term "Fusion" referenced prior, I now see that both Leo and Barry have written a bit about it:

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Offline Optimus

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #138 on: July 05, 2012, 09:15:04 PM »
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Although I saw the term "Fusion" referenced prior, I now see that both Leo and Barry have written a bit about it:
 
source
 
#6

:rofl:
 
So, BBAussie is sick, despite in January writing he was putting the Amiga Mini through the paces (And while I wish no ill of anyone, he seemed well enough to kindly threaten TheDaddy for using an Amiga sticker on the X500Plus), Barry goes and tries to load COS Vision on the first Mini and it goes belly up.
 
So Barry decides to load up the latest Mint and copy some Commodore Wallpapers and VICE over to it and call it Fusion? :roflmao:
 
And, this is not a failure on thier flagship Amiga computer, but the future?:biglaugh:
 
Then, Barry calls all of the customers up (Ed and ?) and tells them he's sorry, COS Vision won't run on it, but the new Fusion will, and asks if they want to wait for Vision and they all (again, Ed and ?) say hell no ship me my PC that I was supposed to get in April?
 
@Edpon, I'm guessing the conversation didn't exactly go that way...care to elaborate?  When did the Barron bless you with his personal call to let you know of your "upgrade" to Fusion.
 

Offline vox

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #139 on: August 14, 2012, 08:59:56 PM »
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Yeah, C=USA has turned out to be no better than the dozens of Commodore and AMiga companies that have sprang up over the years.


I do vote its worse ever. Before we were not threatened, spammed and treated as low lives. The false promises are in best newer Amiga Inc tradition

And yes, I haven`t seen even famous 3rd Amiga Mini video showing C=OS in operation, neither any new C=USA "Amiga" model. Has anyone bited the nail and became futher OEM rebrander turning anything to Amiga?
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Offline vox

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #140 on: August 16, 2012, 12:34:33 PM »
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Yeah, C=USA has turned out to be no better than the dozens of Commodore and AMiga companies that have sprang up over the years.


Can someone do an article on comparison of C=USA and Amiga Inc style (and their relationship?) Would gladly publish it.
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Offline vox

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2012, 12:36:05 PM »
Quote from: number6;699148
Although I saw the term "Fusion" referenced prior, I now see that both Leo and Barry have written a bit about it:

source

#6


The above link is as dead as their old forum. Surely, they praise ripping of Mint 13 (wonder will they remove Mint logo during install as appeared here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_fuf2WS5LM )
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Offline vox

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #142 on: August 17, 2012, 09:02:47 AM »
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That's no excuse.
Product announcements aren't a legal contract.


Yes, but not doing what one promise, discredits individual,
bussiness especially
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Offline Edpon

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #143 on: November 27, 2012, 02:03:30 PM »
All,

  After a long wait to make the final (3rd in the series video) of the Commodore USA Amiga Mini, I've decided not to make a video or even entertain the thought of showing what "was" once a computer branded by Commodore USA as an Amiga alternative. My original thought was to show all possibilities of Amigas available, whether we thought of them as true Amigas or not, and to offer people an insight into what is available and for YOU to make up your mind. Now that these guys no longer (as of 27 Nov 12) offer Amigas of any flavor, I see no reason to make a video to show off what you could have bought/made yourself. Thanks.

P.S. - I enjoyed my AmigaOne 500 Plus a lot more anyhow.

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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #144 on: November 27, 2012, 06:57:07 PM »
I know we often quipped about these machines. But just goes to show how much of a flash in the pan these machines really are. They can't hold down hardware configs or designs for too long. The C64x seems to be the only kind of stable product they have.... and thats on the case.

Do you have any vids of the AmigaOne 500 running? Be curious to see one properly running in a real world situation.

Offline persia

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #145 on: November 27, 2012, 10:42:47 PM »
Flash in the pan, nothing more.  Probably would be an official branded Amiga again in a while...
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Offline Maximius

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #146 on: December 01, 2012, 09:48:10 AM »
Maybe Amiga Mini or Amiga Mio will be introduced again, joining other configurations. Anyway I'm still waiting the new Amiga 1000 or Amiga 500.
I discovered other resellers in Europe like http://www.amibyte.com, they sell "cheap" Amiga Mini configurations but actually they are  out of stock about that.
 

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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #147 on: December 01, 2012, 11:20:51 PM »
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Maybe Amiga Mini or Amiga Mio will be introduced again, joining other configurations. Anyway I'm still waiting the new Amiga 1000 or Amiga 500.
I discovered other resellers in Europe like http://www.amibyte.com, they sell "cheap" Amiga Mini configurations but actually they are  out of stock about that.


Probably because that CCC isn't a "real" one and seems to belone to a property reseller in Italy IIRC.  It was probably created to encourage others, except nobody wants to buy overpriced stock from a dubious supplier and then have to try and mark it up again in order to make money while being legally resonsible for all tech support and repairs.

Ah yes, here's the quote I needed from a thread on AW.net (from our friend Critanime above ;) ):
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Someone has linked an apparent CCC. Going to the page it's a mess. There are links there to buy a c64x but it goes to no shop page. Also looking at the contact details the site belongs to someone who rents holiday appartments in italy.


From what I've heard, nobody signed up for the CCC program because the terms of the deal are absurd (Something about buying them for 15% less than Barry's retail price in quantities >10).

Enjoy your wait for an underpowered/overpriced PC with a misleading Amiga sticker on it and running free Linux.  If you're really bored waiting then just buy the case yourself from the real manufactuer and put your own mobo in it.

Go to the "Streacom" website and check out their latest version of the case which is the "F1C EVO".

Mind you, you know all of this anyway because you post over on the C-USA website along with the other 14 members.  The question is, who sent you here to try and mislead us or is it nobody answers your questions over there?
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #148 on: December 02, 2012, 01:25:02 AM »
To be fair to Maximus I get the feeling his name was just lumped with the reseller because he brought it up on their board. Again the lack of stock on the Mini is probably because the origional case is probably eol. The only reason I can see the slim been still in stock is because the manufacturer is probably still churning them out for other people. Because wasn't Ubuntu gonna start shipping them.

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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #149 on: December 02, 2012, 01:43:51 AM »
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To be fair to Maximus I get the feeling his name was just lumped with the reseller because he brought it up on their board. Again the lack of stock on the Mini is probably because the origional case is probably eol. The only reason I can see the slim been still in stock is because the manufacturer is probably still churning them out for other people. Because wasn't Ubuntu gonna start shipping them.


Ah, then I'm sorry for doubting Maximus.  I thought he was a CUSA drone sent here to try and convince people that the company was still alive with viable products.
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