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Offline Edpon

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #120 on: June 26, 2012, 05:58:59 PM »
Hey all,

  Been awhile since I last posted. I noticed you guys had a Commodore Amiga Mini topic thread, so this fits in just fine. Check out the 1st of 3 videos I posted on YouTube about the mini. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Lf_Auls_g

Ed
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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #121 on: June 26, 2012, 06:24:33 PM »
Oh Jesus, somebody bought one? Don't encourage them!
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Offline Edpon

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #122 on: June 26, 2012, 07:14:58 PM »
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Oh Jesus, somebody bought one? Don't encourage them!


Yeah, for multiple reasons. Looked like nice small factor computer with Commodore OS Fusion (Yes, that's what I have pre-installed, not Vision), so I can check out a very cool looking, retro computer - in software. I can also dual boot this thing to be a Win7 64Bit machine and even AROS. So many possibilities. And contrary to popular belief, it's not a $2500+ machine. Mine Was $1500. And before someone goes off on a soapbox and say - You could have bought a XXXXXX for that much, remember something: ALL Amigas now are hobby computers, so if you pay $10,000 or as little as $100, it's your choice. Mine has dual use, so it's like getting 2 or more computers in one. Just saying. . . .
Anyhow, it's meant as a service to anyone who's interested in the machine, as well as, to show that it does exist. If anyone has questions about it, fire away. If you'd like to request to see something in my video, planned for filming this weekend, and it has to do with setup, looking physicaly at the computer, prodding with the OS, let me know. Thanks all.

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Offline kedawa

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #123 on: June 27, 2012, 03:25:03 AM »
There are purpose-built AROS machines that can do all that for far less money.
At least with those, some of your money might actually go towards furthering the platform.
 

Offline Optimus

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #124 on: June 28, 2012, 07:19:49 PM »
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And contrary to popular belief, it's not a $2500+ machine. Mine Was $1500.

Anyhow, it's meant as a service to anyone who's interested in the machine, as well as, to show that it does exist.

Ed


Congratulations on buying an i3 Mini ITX PC that could be built for less than $500 for $1500.  It's nice they were magnanimous enough to change their configurations and pricing to bring the pricing down to the point to get one customer to buy.

So, 5 months after it was announced, and 3 months after you ordered it, it does finially exist!  Man it sure takes a long time to engrave the Amiga logo on a $60 case ( I guess the crappy hand painting in the logo takes time)
 

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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #125 on: June 29, 2012, 01:29:49 AM »
They never painted it....

Offline Edpon

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #126 on: July 02, 2012, 05:11:31 AM »
All,

  My 2nd video on the Commodore Amiga Mini (Setup) is now live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_fuf2WS5LM&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #127 on: July 02, 2012, 07:55:59 AM »
I knew it was based on Mint but to actually see the Mint on setup is just shameful!

Forgive my ignorance but are those magnets worrying anyone being so close to the HD?

What i'd like to see you do is try out AROS and see how compatible it is. IIRC CUSA couldn't use AROS because although it is open source they still would have had to pay for sound drivers? Please try it so we can see why they didn't go with AROS and instead went with Linux.
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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #128 on: July 02, 2012, 02:23:52 PM »
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IIRC CUSA couldn't use AROS because although it is open source they still would have had to pay for sound drivers? Please try it so we can see why they didn't go with AROS and instead went with Linux.
Supposedly they're also forbidden by AInc from including an Amiga-like operating system with their products (or is it just with "Amiga"-branded models?) But if they won't spare so much as a buck for software they actually do use, I'm sure that they'd never in a million years have sprung for sound drivers.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #129 on: July 02, 2012, 03:33:25 PM »
Looks okay.  But seems slooooowww!
 

Offline Edpon

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #130 on: July 02, 2012, 03:57:20 PM »
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Looks okay.  But seems slooooowww!


That's probably because it was the 1st time it was setup. Since I'm also interested in seeing Amiga (Traditional Amiga) flurish, I'll be the one to donate to the AROS team IF I use it on my Mini. That would be the right thing to do and help them develop more software and cover their costs for the work provided. Thanks all, please offer suggestions on what you'd like to see in the next video.

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Offline Optimus

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #131 on: July 02, 2012, 06:38:53 PM »
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All,
 
My 2nd video on the Commodore Amiga Mini (Setup) is now live.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_fuf2WS5LM&feature=youtu.be
 
Ed

Ed-
 
You expressed doubt that one could build your system minus the engravings for $500, and wanted to know where I shop? Well, your right, I exaggerated a little but, look at the following -
 
First, I shop where Barry shops for his cases, PerfectHomeTheater.com :
 
http://www.shop.perfecthometheater.com/HTPC-ITX2-Black-Ultra-small-aluminum-chassis-HTPC-ITX2-B.htm
 
You can get the case, power supply, and Blu-ray for $271 . P.S. That's a good link for you, because you can pick up the IR reciever and remote for your case. You'll also find virtually all of the concept cases Barry and Leo have pitched there.
 
You can get the i3-2120 for $125:
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=i3-2120+&x=20&y=13
 
The ZOTAC Motherboard has been discontinued and deactivated from Newegg, but when it was there it was $200 (I'll have find another thread where I had an exact price scoped out):
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500070
 
But, you can still find it for $200 here:
 
http://chucksaudiovideo.com/product/33288_Zotac-Intel-LGA-1155-Z68-Supreme-with-WiFi-GT-430-GPU-Mini-ITX-Intel-Z68-Mini-ITX-DDR3-1333-LGA-1155-Motherboards-Z68ITX-B-E-Z68ITX-B-E.html
 
 
And a 4 GB DDR3 SO-DIM, take your pick at $20: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=4gb+SO-DIMM+ddr3
 
Add a 1 TB Sata Drive for $100:
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178006
 
 
So, that adds up to $716. And if I don't buy my Blu-Ray from PerfectHomeTheater.com , (which he's not anymore because he won't pay cost for a Sony with the eject button now) I can do better.
 
That means that the Amiga engravings and profit for Barry & Co. is about $800 assuming Barry pays street price and doesn't get any dealer discounts for these rediculous "group buys" he is really doing, fronting them as 4-6 week lead times or 3 month "pre-orders". It's less than honest at best, and someone considering buying a computer from them should be made aware of what they are getting into.
 
So, in fairness, I amend my statement, you waited for 3 months for a $700 computer that you paid $1500 for. And the specifications changed from when you ordered first ordered it because they didn't trouble themselves with actually testing one before they put them out for pre-order.
 
Feel better?
 
P.S. I really feel sorry for the people who ordered a C64x Extreme in December and waited 6 months to end up getting a C64x Supreme. I've counted 2 people like that so far on the CUSA forum.
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Offline Edpon

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #132 on: July 03, 2012, 09:26:49 PM »
@Optimus

Excellent links and research. I'll bring this up in the next video, and no I don't necessarily "Feel" better, but at least you did your homework and showed where I could have built roughly the same computer for less. It's ok though, because as I've said in previous forums, I'LL be the guinea pig for all of you, to see if this computer is worth getting, if it lives up to the sacred Amiga name (I'll tell you all honestly in the video after I've researched the OS) and if it's a good multi-OS machine. I can kind of understand now why some of you hate CUSA, but like I said in the video, I'll give any company a chance to they screw me over. No buying this machine at a nice sized profit is not screwing me over - that was my fault for not doing research and simply wanting to buy a different flavored "Amiga" machine. Thanks.

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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #133 on: July 03, 2012, 09:35:13 PM »
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I'LL be the guinea pig for all of you, to see if this computer is worth getting, if it lives up to the sacred Amiga name (I'll tell you all honestly in the video after I've researched the OS)
I can tell you right now it won't, as it has absolutely nothing in common with the Amiga. It may or may not be a decent Linux/Windows machine, but it's certainly not going to compare to an Amiga.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini
« Reply #134 on: July 03, 2012, 10:06:59 PM »
http://forums.itxgamer.com/viewtopic.php?t=856

Someone has built an almost carbon copy of the Mini. While I don't like CUSA products it's been interesting to see them in the flesh as it were. Still think it's over priced for what it is though.