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Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« on: January 11, 2004, 03:35:41 AM »
What brands work, I wanna save doe, they are exspencive on Ebay. Amiga rip off artists! :/
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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2004, 05:22:01 AM »
Who is a ripoff artist on eBay?

The only way to get an 100Mb ethernet on a A1200 is with a Mediator.

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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2004, 05:58:01 AM »
You mean there is not a single PCMCIA 100 Mb card that is 1200 compatable?
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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2004, 07:06:01 AM »
Nope, sorry. IIRC the slot type in the A1200 is far too old. It's only something silly like a Type-1 PCMIA.

You'd need a mediator for 100Mb. There are a few 10Mb clock port and such options though.

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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2004, 07:30:49 AM »
No Wonder those prices are SO HIGH.

Hmm ok what 10Mb cheap cards work good with it?
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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2004, 08:18:51 AM »
I bought an Amiga 1200 with a PCMCIA Kingmax KEN0012-TF 10MBit adapter.

I didn't try it yet but the former owner said the card was ok.
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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2004, 10:27:53 AM »
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Hmm ok what 10Mb cheap cards work good with it?


See the lists of compatible 10Mbit PCMCIA cards/models  inside these archives:
cnet.device is for most NE2000 compatible cards, but not 3com ones.
And 3c589.device is only for 3com cards.

I have 3com Etherlink III (3C589D-TP) on my 1200 and it works great   :-)
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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2004, 11:29:13 AM »
hi XDelusion

"cheap" and "Amiga" are 2 incompatible words IMHO

Never seen in my life, a good and cheap item for Amiga . . . maybe the screws :-)

Ciao

 

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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2004, 11:38:59 AM »
In the past i tried some pcmcia 10mbit card for my 1200.... but i had some problems. Anyway now i have a mediator with pci ethernet card for my fast internet connection :-D
 

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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2004, 01:04:33 PM »
If you use PCMCIA cards (the only type available for A1200 without a mediator), then it doesn't matter if you get 10mbit or 100mbit. The PCMCIA port is too slow to take full advantage of either anyway.
 

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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2004, 03:21:02 PM »
XDelusion:

 Please please do not listen to some of these people. I myself use a PCMCIA ethernet card with cnet.device and it works excellent and fast....and they are cheap to and very available. If it seems slow...it only because your Amiga is slow, so the webpages will come up slower than usual because maybe your running a 68030 like me. but if you have an 040 or 060 it should be faster.
My card is a PCMCIA 10Mbps, it also says its a 16bit card with 5v power.
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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2004, 03:39:45 PM »
Hi

Even if you had a mediator with a 100mpbs card it would make no sense because no classic amiga is fast enough to handle these high transfer rates. It would make no improvement over a 10mbps card imho.
 

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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2004, 04:45:19 PM »
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cybereye wrote:
Nope, sorry. IIRC the slot type in the A1200 is far too old. It's only something silly like a Type-1 PCMIA.

You'd need a mediator for 100Mb. There are a few 10Mb clock port and such options though.


The type-1:ness of the slot doesn't matter here.. (besides, you can fit a type-II card in it just fine) The PCMCIA slot types just define how thick the card can be, they are electrically compatible.

Yes, there are 100Mbit cards for PCMCIA.

Perhaps it's possible to get a 100Mbit NE2000 compatible card that works with cnet.device.. Some "neverheard" brands are NE2000 compatible...

But like people here said, it's impossible to get 100Mbit performance through PCMCIA, let alone using an A1200's PCMCIA slot.

(CardBus cards can do proper 100M, but these will absolutely not work in an A1200 - you might fry the card if you try)
 

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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2004, 05:35:42 PM »
@rayt:

The amiga is fast enough given a descent processor. But the current quite inefficient TCP/IP-stacks for the Amiga coupled with inefficient ways of transferring the data from the NIC buffers results in a maximum of of not much more than 10Mbit/sec.

@leirbag28:

Recently being able to try Ibrowse on a 68060-based Amiga with graphics-card I must say that I was surprised - it was very fast, definately felt as fast as a bit older PC. Though I have done lots of surfing on a 68060-based Amiga without graphics-card and that does not feel fast.

(edit): The PCMCIA-bus is specified to be able to achieve about a 2 MByte/Sec transferrate when using 16-bit transfers.


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Re: Cheap and 100Mbit Eth card of the 1200?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2004, 09:38:42 PM »
I am not using the 1200 for high speed internet, I just to network it for file transfer, and considering the Amiga has SMALL files,  a 10 Mb card will do fine.

I'll do High Speed internet on a new Amiga when I can afford one.
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