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Offline Cammy

Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #14 from previous page: January 24, 2012, 03:05:03 AM »
Whenever I back up an Amiga so I can put a new drive in it, I make an uncompressed LHA file of the entire drive contents and copy it to a SD card with a PCMCIA card reader. Then I prepare and format the new drive in the Amiga using a floppy disk I have prepared with PFS3, HDInstTools, Fat95, CompactFlash.device, LHA and some other bits. After the partitions are formatted, I simply extract the LHA back onto the fresh partition.

I'm not sure why people make things more complicated by swapping drives around and using Windows and UAE, perhaps it's because they don't have a floppy disk handy.

I have been using CF cards in my CD32, A1200 and A600 for years and I swear by them. I have also seen people with solid state drives in their Amiga and they're happy with them too. I suppose you buy what you can afford. I recently finally swapped my 2GB CF for a 8GB one because I was constantly shuffling things around on my drive as it was 99-100% full all the time. I never thought I'd need so much space but eventually I did fill it up. There are a lot of games, software, and media to put on there. I like having 8GB now because I can store several of my favourite musical pieces in high quality 8SVX format, so I can listen to a long playlist of music and it's not CPU-intensive like MP3s.
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Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2012, 03:23:14 AM »
You can install a cf easy with a real amiga, dont need to use emuls, if you have any problem with hdtoolbox theres some hdtoolbox for cf for prepare it like any other hd, i have it somewhere on a disk, if you need it tell me.
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Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2012, 03:13:21 PM »
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You can install a cf easy with a real amiga, dont need to use emuls, if you have any problem with hdtoolbox theres some hdtoolbox for cf for prepare it like any other hd, i have it in somewhere on a disk, if you need it tell me.

I just noticed AmigaKit are selling them pre-formatted with an install disk, which sounds convenient.  I might consider that, as well as a PCMCIA card reader.
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Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2012, 05:43:18 PM »
A bit overpriced but is the easiest way, enjoy it =)
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Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2012, 08:53:10 PM »
Setting up a CF from WinUAE is really good if you haven't got any floppies handy. I bought an ExpressCard CF adapter for my laptop, which is just the most wonderful thing to use.

I've also got a PCMCIA CF adapter for the miggy and use a FastATA on one of the A1200's.

SanDisk brand CF's (one 4GB, one 2GB). Utterly brilliant.

Protip: You can grab a byte-for-byte copy of the CF (in Windows, using a port of the *NIX tool 'dd') and use it as a hardfile in WinUAE without any fuss.
 

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Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 04:38:56 PM »
well, ofc, CF is much cheaper as you can get small size. but keep in mind (if you use Amiga a lot) that SSD was designed to be used as hard drive.
CF, on the other hand, are mostly used as digital camera storage. so, they probably have lower number of writes.
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Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2012, 05:06:48 PM »
this is true. Does anyone know what life expectancy is for these cards anyways, when used with an amiga?

I've heard very few stories of cards failing, presumably it's helped that the amiga OS doesn't write to the card constantly.
 

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Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2012, 07:14:14 PM »
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I'm thinking of investing in a solid state drive for my Amiga.  Its 1.2Gb drive is getting on a bit now, it's all backed up on my PC but I have nightmares about it failing.

Does anybody have any recommendations for hardware?

Also what would be the best/easiest way to reinstall all my things on a new drive?  I gather there are programs for Linux that will write Amiga partition tables and file systems.  My Amiga does have a network card.


I have a Fast ATA IV and CF works but my computer would never boot from cold. You always had to do a warm boot to get it going. I had the same issue with the CF card andthe EIDEx4 adapter I had before that. It was not the end of the world, but it annoyed me none the less.

I ended up switching to a transcend 4GB disk-on-modele(which did not have the cold boot problem) and I added a dual IDE SATA converter and ran the SATA ports to external eSATA ports.

On one of the external eSATA ports I usually keep 60GB SSD and occasionally plug in a external DVD drive.

In the future I may mount the SSD internal.

I'm not using the full 60GB but figure I have already carved out:

4GB of amiga related MPEG1 videos (i play with RiVA)
4GB partition for whdload games.
4GB partition for backing up stuff
4GB MP3 and MOD files
4GB of classic mac crap.
 

Offline Cammy

Re: SSD for A1200
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2012, 01:10:41 AM »
A lot of people on Amiga forums like to jump in on these threads and mention how CF cards have a limited amount of writes and how they might eventually stop working or something.

Don't worry about this. Don't worry about these people or their misinformation.

CF cards do have a limited amount of writes, and if you use one as your main hard drive for ten years you might notice that the overall capacity has slightly decreased over the years. That's because when the memory cells in the CF card have reached their write limit, they are disabled so they aren't able to be written to anymore. CF/SD/SDHC cards are all designed to do this automatically. They don't just suddenly stop working, or start giving write errors. You will never encounter a problem other than a slightly dwindling capacity in later years. Meaning your once 1.9GB drive might end up showing as 1.88GB if you decide to format it after using it for a decade. It happens so slowly and transparently that you'll never notice.

Also, since AmigaOS isn't bloatware like Windows and most Linux distributions, it doesn't need to constantly write to the drive when it's not even doing anything.

If you would like, I can prepare a brand new 8GB CF card for you using PFS3 or SFS (it's up to you, but I don't recommend FFS) with a couple of partitions, install Workbench 3.1 as well as an additional Workbench pack if you'd like (ClassicWB or AmigaSYS), test it with a brand new IDE-CF adapter to make sure it all works together, and send them to you for free. It's the least I could do for you for giving us all Mr. Beanbag!
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A1200 020@14Mhz/2MB+8MB/FPU/RTC/KS3.0/IDE-CF+2GB/S-Video
CD32 020@14Mhz/2MB+8MB/RTC/KS3.1/IDE-CF+4GB
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