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How to stop Deneb splash screen
« on: January 20, 2012, 10:19:45 PM »
The Deneb is a very cool card that gives my Amiga access to USB, but the splash screen it puts up on boot is driving me nuts.  First, two little lines laboriously trace out the word "DENEB" on the screen.  Then it gets filled in with some pattern.  Then the pattern falls to the ground and DENEB remains so you can admire it.  Then it disappears.  Then the whole $%&# thing starts over again.  Not until that's all over with does the machine continue booting - and it takes at least a minute.

The first time I saw this, it was cute.  The second time it was boring.  But now it's simply beyond irritating.  Is there any way to make this piece of animation simply go away?
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 10:22:39 PM »
Works on persnickety electronics as well!





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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 10:56:09 PM »
Do you have Luciferin? It's the tool for managing the FlashROM on the Deneb. Just fire that up and move the intro to your hard drive and out of the Flash. See http://platon42.de
 

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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 11:24:01 PM »
Having it means that you probably have the default installation modules inside your Deneb.
These are the Deneb devices, poseidon.library, mass storage device, and some other classes along with the INTRO module as Matt_H said.

Just fire up Luciferin, copy the flash contents to a folder for backup purposes and save/flash either your modules of choice or even an empty flash (if you don't want any extra module inside) and you're gonna be set :)

Intro is cool but only for a couple of times I guess :P
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 09:02:08 PM »
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Just fire up Luciferin, copy the flash contents to a folder for backup purposes and save/flash either your modules of choice or even an empty flash (if you don't want any extra module inside) and you're gonna be set :)

OK, I got Luciferin running and there's a whole list of items on the left side and another list of items on the right side.  And there's a message on the bottom that says "Loading modules list from 'Default.mods'...failed!" (whatever that means).

In the right pane under the FlashRom tab, I see something called "DenebIntro".  I assume that's what I want to get rid of.  But ir's not at all clear how to do that.  And after reading two paragraphs of warnings in the documentation about how this stuff is for experts only and one wrong move can brick your machine, I'd rather not experiment with this.  :angry:  Thanks.
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 09:29:32 PM »
The message isn't important so no worries :)
Ok... some clarification then.

Left side is your local hard drive. From here you can change to the path you want to either use to download files from Deneb's flash or choose files (modules) to load into Deneb's Flash
Right side is Deneb.
- First tab Local exists for you to drag & drop files (modules) from left side in order to put it into Deneb's Flash. When you're ready to flash Deneb... just press the button Upload.
- Second tab FlashRom is the Flash as it is now (you will see the contents of what exists in there). You can't do alter anything in that tab but to check what you got and download it to the Left side=Local hard drive.
- Third tab Booloader has general options about how Deneb will react upon booting. No need to change anything there.
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 10:12:50 PM »
Thanks for the explanation.  So there's no way to remove just one thing from the FlashRom, you have to rebuild the list of everything minus the one item you don't want?

So what I need to do is Download everything I want to keep from the right side to the left side, then drag & drop them from there into the Local pane and then click Upload?  Is that right?  (Just want to be 100% sure)
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 10:34:04 PM »
Verify output size?

Is Deneb USB designed with a generic "usb.library" that calls a hardware specific "deneb.library" ?
(btw, can one boot a USB drive from Deneb?)
 

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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 10:51:29 PM »
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So what I need to do is Download everything I want to keep from the right side to the left side, then drag & drop them from there into the Local pane and then click Upload?  Is that right?  (Just want to be 100% sure)
You're absolutely correct :)

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Is Deneb USB designed with a generic "usb.library" that calls a hardware specific "deneb.library" ?
(btw, can one boot a USB drive from Deneb?)
Deneb is a device, and it has 3 software devices that support it (dma, pio, zii). Apart from the poseidon.library there are the USB classes like HID, mass storage, etc.
Putting deneb device, poseidon.library, massstorage.device and your current psdstackloader configuration file, and you can boot just fine from Deneb via USB :)
It works pretty fast as well :)

I managed to boot even from Subway USB in an A600/030 but it was done only for testing/fun purposes. You can check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gtDZUm46ks
« Last Edit: January 21, 2012, 10:55:49 PM by mfilos »
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 06:49:04 AM »
Well, one step forward, two steps back.  I put the "2632" command in my  startup-sequence file as recommended in the DKB manual and now the  machine won't boot anymore.  It goes all the way through the "Deneb  intro" thing twice and then hangs.  I'll have to boot from my 3.9  emergency floppy tomorrow and take that line out.  At least I hope  that's why it's not booting now.  Sigh...
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 06:58:10 AM »
Are you familiar with Early Startup Control? Hold both mouse buttons while booting and you'll get a menu with some boot options, including Boot with No Startup-Sequence. That will drop you into a basic shell, so you can run a text editor from there and comment out lines in your startup-sequence without needing to dig up a boot floppy.

I would be suprised if 2632 isn't the problem.
 

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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 08:39:55 PM »
Well what I did was boot from my OS 3.9 Emergency floppy.  That let me edit out the 2632 command from startup-sequnce.  After that, it rebooted OK.  So then I ran Luciferin and was able to reflash the Deneb card, removing the DenebIntro module (as well as that annoying "StayingAlive" requester).

Then I rebooted again.  Now the machine won't boot at all.  All I get is a blank screen.  I finally had to pull the Deneb card out.  With that gone, it boots OK.  So now what?  Did I just brick my Deneb?

For the record, I reflashed using the following list:

denebpiousb.device
denebz2usb.device
hid.class
hub.class
massstorage.class
poseidon.library
PsdStackloader

Heeeeellllp!
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 09:03:14 PM »
First of all you haven't bricked your Deneb by just using Luciferin :)
Second, you don't need to pull out Deneb if it doesn't boot. Putting the Jumper into ROM position, disables Deneb's flash so it won't interfere in the boot process.

Second, I'd suggest you to remove everything from Deneb's flash and boot your system.
Poseidon doesn't need to be in Flash except you require USB things before booting Workbench (like USB mouse, booting from USB sticks etc). If you don't need such stuff, there's no need to have Poseidon.library, classes and Deneb devices into the Flash.

So... If your system works just fine without anything... then install Poseidon, configure it and if it works, insert into Deneb's flash the correct device that works on your system, and the PsdStackLoader that resides on your Env-Archive folder. Don't forget that every change you make on the USB configuration needs a fresh PsdStackLoader!
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 09:05:01 PM »
There's a jumper you can set to disable the Deneb Flash ROM on boot.  Try that.
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2012, 09:05:32 PM »
Doh Mfilos types faster than me :D
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