Fake 68060 71e41J cpu's on ebay

[Darrin]

My original intention was to do something similar.  I thought if I got them cheap I could sell them onto Mike/Jakub at a reduced price and this would bring down the cost of the 68060 accelerator for the Replay.

I think if anyone here is interested in bidding on these chips here at Amiga.org, then it would be a good idea to declare that interest here so that we don't end up with a few people from AO all bidding against each other and driving up the price by 300% unnecessarily.  If a few folks are interested, perhaps one can bid and then share some of the proceeds with the others?

I agree.

Do you have a bid in at the moment?

I would like to have some sort of response from MikeJ or Jakub on whether these CPUs are suitable.  If that's the case then I'm more than happy to provide the winning bid myself.  Any idea what a fair price for 10 of these things is?  Assuming they are suitable then I don't see a problem distributing them.  If we take one each then that leaves 8 and at the current bid I don't see a problem offloading them at around $10 each.

Edit:  Oh bugger!  It has ended.  

[jorkany]

For example: The 060 in my A1200 has markings that indicate no MMU.
Yet the chip really does have a working mmu!

My 060 is an X and it has both MMU and FPU fully working.

CPU manufacturers sometimes mark processors which have a feature as not having that feature. This is (or at least was) done for a couple of reasons. Sometimes samples from a batch would have a functional core, but a feature such as the FPU wouldn't pass tests, so they couldn't sell it as having that feature. Another reason is it was more cost effective at some point to just make the full featured chip but sell it as not having the feature.

So, you might find chips which are marked as not having a feature which actually do have it. But I doubt you'll find a chip from a reputable manufacturer marked as having a feature which it doesn't have. In this case of this auction it seems like the chips are knockoffs or have been relabeled.

[Xanxi]

Any idea how much gold there actually is in such a CPU?
I think that the gold value may be less that the CPU value in case of the 68060.

[Darrin]

Any idea how much gold there actually is in such a CPU?
I think that the gold value may be less that the CPU value in case of the 68060.

I suspect a hell of a lot less.  I hope these CPUs don't end up in the hands of someone who will try and melt the gold plating off them.

[VuData]

They are listed again (assuming these are the same processors)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1lb-0-4oz-Gold-Recovery-CPUS-Processors-10PCS-/260936891502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc10cfc6e#ht_500wt_1180

[Darrin]

They are listed again (assuming these are the same processors)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1lb-0-4oz-Gold-Recovery-CPUS-Processors-10PCS-/260936891502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc10cfc6e#ht_500wt_1180

AH thanks for that.

I hope this is another batch of 10 and that he isn't trying to sell the same chips to multiple people.

[Thorham]

An LC060 still blows away a lame 030 or 020!

Thank you for calling other peoples stuff (including my own) 'lame', it's greatly appreciated

[yaqube]

I would like to have some sort of response from MikeJ or Jakub on whether these CPUs are suitable.

Don't bother with them. Get the real thing.

[mechy]

They are listed again (assuming these are the same processors)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1lb-0-4oz-Gold-Recovery-CPUS-Processors-10PCS-/260936891502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc10cfc6e#ht_500wt_1180

He had 40 cpu's with straight pins and a bunch supposedly with smashed pins. he seems to just be selling them in lots of 10.

mech

[mechy]

If these were true MC/RC parts and 71e41J mask they would be worth way more than the gold recovery.
As they are they aren't very usefull. It takes alot of these cpu's to make any substantial gold. they dissolve the gold off in a chemical process then separate it out of the "soup" as i understand it.
Sadly since the value of gold is going so high we will start seeing all of our cool old motorola chips(and other gold) being tossed for scrap now.

They will become scarce now

Any idea how much gold there actually is in such a CPU?
I think that the gold value may be less that the CPU value in case of the 68060.

[LoadWB]

Thank you for calling other peoples stuff (including my own) 'lame', it's greatly appreciated

I have '020s and '030s, and compared to my '060s they are lame. They work and do a job, but still lame in comparison IMHO :p

[VuData]

Are these likely to be any good?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260618840054?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1948wt_1064

[actung_bab]

Am curious i have 2 060 cpus here came with buggered blizzard 2060 board to brought locally of auction site i was told that cpus chould been installed wrong way around
And the lgoic chip needed reprograming on the board apprently only cde can do this
I emailed them no rpley dam germans hehe
curious does anyone think they chould be good still , i also brought one of ebay donkeys
ago and was solidered to circuit baord just cut of roughly yikes was cheap though should know <
friend who runs elctronics biz said be job getting solider of the pins so never
Bothered just left in its case wasint a amiga sourced 060 was like ec version
Love to get board fixed looks mint toying with idea sending to amiga france
I emailed him year ago just havent got courage to do it , its long way to send something

[mechy]

If you are in .NZ, You might send them to anthony hoffman at Christchurch,NZ. His site is amiga.serveftp.net  i bet he could fix them if possible and at a min. shed some light on if they are fixable.

Mech

Am curious i have 2 060 cpus here came with buggered blizzard 2060 board to brought locally of auction site i was told that cpus chould been installed wrong way around
And the lgoic chip needed reprograming on the board apprently only cde can do this
I emailed them no rpley dam germans hehe
curious does anyone think they chould be good still , i also brought one of ebay donkeys
ago and was solidered to circuit baord just cut of roughly yikes was cheap though should know <
friend who runs elctronics biz said be job getting solider of the pins so never
Bothered just left in its case wasint a amiga sourced 060 was like ec version
Love to get board fixed looks mint toying with idea sending to amiga france
I emailed him year ago just havent got courage to do it , its long way to send something

[Darrin]

Don't bother with them. Get the real thing.

Cheers.  Thanks for the heads up.

Do you know if Mike managed to source any to sell with any production run?  These things on their own seem to be like hen's teeth.

[mechy]

Are these likely to be any good?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260618840054?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1948wt_1064

Those are the early 060's they work fine,but run warm (01f43g mask)
as for the particular ebay seller, your guess is as good as mine
Looking at his feedback,people have had some problems with his stuff so you probably have a 50/50 chance

Mech