Smoked puffed off the vending of the A1200...

[AmigaClassicRule]

I just bought a 20 GB 2.5" IDE HARDDRIVE and when I installed it into my amiga 1200 bad burning smell and smoke puffed out of the A1200 vending hole. I was scared like no tomorrow, as soon as I opened the case I noticed one line of the 2.5" IDE cable is pitch black and burned down. there is no other damage except a bad smell from the HD and the cable itself. Did this fry my Amiga 1200? I am not so sure if the HD is dead either.

[Jiffy]

Only one way to find out: switch it on to see if it still works. Without the hard drive, ofcourse.

[Karlos]

It sounds like the cable may have been in the wrong way round. The old 2.5 inch drives have 44 rather than 40 pins, the extra 4 carry the power.

It's a really bad design flaw. The larger 40 pin connectors used on 3.5 inch drives can't usually be inserted the wrong way round and yet the worst that can happen if you do is that it doesn't work until you fix it. Making the same mistake on a 2.5 inch drive means you are potentially pumping 12V straight into a signal pin.

As suggested above, try the machine without the drive attached. Hopefully it still works at least.

[Bundi]

Woohoo, I got in with it first! :hammer:  : Maybe this can help you?

http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm

B.

[Tripitaka]

I just bought a 20 GB 2.5" IDE HARDDRIVE and when I installed it into my amiga 1200 bad burning smell and smoke puffed out of the A1200 vending hole. I was scared like no tomorrow, as soon as I opened the case I noticed one line of the 2.5" IDE cable is pitch black and burned down. there is no other damage except a bad smell from the HD and the cable itself. Did this fry my Amiga 1200? I am not so sure if the HD is dead either.

I've done this too, a few years back. The cable was around the wrong way just as Karlos mentioned above. In my case the Amiga was fine (I still have one pin darker than the others however), and the cable was dead and cremated. Sadly the drive was dead too but I've heard of other drives surviving this so fingers crossed for you.

[Bamiga2002]

Woohoo, I got in with it first! :hammer:  : Maybe this can help you?

http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm

B.

Jackass!

[AmigaClassicRule]

Well, the good news to this...my A1200 still turns on and it works. What I do not know yet if the IDE port on the motherboard is alive or not.

1)So what I did is I re-ordered a 20 GB HD from the same source.
2)What I did also is I ordered another 2.5" IDE HD from AmigaKit as well.

What I do want from you guys...if possible....to send me a picture tutorial or some great detail guide online with step by step in installing the HD correctly in the Amiga because I do not want to repeat the same mistake anymore. My high confidence of being able to install IDE HD is now chattered and I feel like a junior all over again. If there is a complete guide step by step with great detailed picture in how to install a HD on the Amiga 1200 I WOULD REALLY love it because I will be following the steps one by one.

Also I discovered that when I installed the HD the wrong way and using the original A500 power supply the Amiga 1200 was not powered on at all and the power supply made a zzeeeeping sound when I turned the power supply off. This only happened when I used the ATX 300 Watt power supply.

So I will use again the A500 power supply again in case that symptom happen again..but I am hoping with all hopes that never happens because I am relying on you guys to provide me the best detailed step by step tutorial installing an IDE hard drive with pictures.

I want to get this damn computer online with a HD already...and this is taking me too long -_-.

[tone007]

Make sure the drive is in label side up, and that the cable is connected on all 44 pins.

That's all there is to it.



Oh yeah, make sure it's the correct 44 pins on the drive.  As above, there's usually a separate set of 4 you won't use.

[mechy]

umm,I think you mean 44 pins for 2.5" ide
40 pin is for 3.5" devices

Mech

Make sure the drive is in label side up, and that the cable is connected on all 40 pins.

That's all there is to it.



Oh yeah, make sure it's the right 40 pins on the drive.  As above, there's usually a separate set of 4 you won't use.

[AmigaClassicRule]

Wait you mean this picture is wrong. Those four additional pins...they must be used. You mean I need an entire different set of cables than the one on the picture?

[Terminills]

Wait you mean this picture is wrong. Those four additional pins...they must be used. You mean I need an entire different set of cables than the one on the picture?

Those are usually for setting the jumpers iirc.


http://www.photofast.tw/forum/download/Forum_Photo/G-Monster_IDE_2.5inch_Jumper_settings.png

[AmigaClassicRule]

I am going to take the HD that I tortured yesterday to work and with my colleague there I will be able to test it at work to see if it too fried. If it did not fry at all...then it is just a matter of getting a 2.5" 44 PIN IDE cable. so the most important thing I got from the picture is the red line cable on the IDE have to be on PIN 1 of the HD and PIN 1 of the Amiga motherboard then. Is number 1 labeled on the Amiga mother of the IDE port on the Amiga's motherboard?

[psxphill]

Is number 1 labeled on the Amiga mother of the IDE port on the Amiga's motherboard?

Yes
 
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/a1200mb1d3.jpg
 
They seem to mark pin one on all chips and connectors in a very large font.

[Bamiga2002]

This reminded me of my poor A600 that I destroyed by putting the 2.5" IDE-cable in the wrong way... puff!

[save2600]

I totally remember those little smoking monkeys that you could get from vending machines back in the day.  :lol:

Oh, you mean smoke puffed out the venting of your Amiga? Yeah, that sucks.  :laughing: