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Minimig Setup Help
« on: January 05, 2012, 07:43:53 PM »
Hi all!

So I finally got around to ordering a Minimig which arrived today (thanks Amigakit!) and it's looking great in it's new case (thanks Lorinano!), however I'm having trouble getting it working.

I downloaded minimig 1.pic from Vesalia and copied it to an SD card along with a kickstart rom and Workbench ADF from Amiga Forever, however on boot up I get a red screen with a message stating incompatible pic firmware.

Could someone help out a noob and let him know what he's doing wrong?

Many thanks,

Phil
 

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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 08:01:15 PM »
Quote from: Philski;674509
Hi all!

So I finally got around to ordering a Minimig which arrived today (thanks Amigakit!) and it's looking great in it's new case (thanks Lorinano!), however I'm having trouble getting it working.

I downloaded minimig 1.pic from Vesalia and copied it to an SD card along with a kickstart rom and Workbench ADF from Amiga Forever, however on boot up I get a red screen with a message stating incompatible pic firmware.

Could someone help out a noob and let him know what he's doing wrong?

Many thanks,

Phil


you'll need to put newer firmware in your PIC. I think you use this program to do it :

http://www.etc.ugal.ro/cchiculita/software/picbootloader.htm

hopefully somebody knows if this is still the preferred method.

I have an ARM now, so i'm a little outdated on PIC info.
 

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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 08:08:11 PM »
Thanks for the info.  Sorry for my ignorance, but how do I go about using this? Can it be done via SD card or do I need to connect the Minimig to a PC?
 

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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 08:31:31 PM »
You need a serial cable I believe. And a computer with a COM1 port.
 

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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 09:00:05 PM »
Here's my old "Upgrading your PIC made easy" guide:

Required:
Minimig
Null Modem serial cable – a normal serial cable will not work unless it has a null modem adapter.
PC with a serial port (USB serial adapters work OK)
Tiny Bootloader – free software downloadable from the Internet

#1: Connect the Minimig to an appropriate serial port on a PC using your NULL MODEM serial cable.

#2: Set jumper on Minimig to from “FPGA” to the “MCU” position.

#3: Switch the Minimig on.

#4: Download and run the Tiny Bootloader program on the PC.

#5: Select the correct COM port and rate (115200)

#6: Press the "CheckPIC" button on the Tiny Boodloader display.

#7. Quickly press “PGM RESET” on the Minimig motherboard within FOUR SECONDS to establish communications between the Minimig and Tiny Bootloader on the PC.

If you succeed you should see something like the following message in a log window:

Connected to \\.\COM1 at 115200
Searching for PIC ...
Found:18F 252o/452o

If you don't you will see:

Connected to \\.\COM1 at 115200
Searching for PIC ...Not found,
ERROR!

If you get the error repeat steps #6 and #7.

#8: On Tiny Bootloader select the hex update file that needs to be written to the PIC.

#9: Select "Write Flash" on Tiny Bootloader and immediately press the reset button on the Minimig motherboard.

If you succeed you will see something like the following message:

Connected to \\.\COM1 at 115200
HEX: 6 days old, INHX8M,18Fcode, total=14552 bytes.
Searching for PIC ...
Found:18F 252o/452o
WRITE OK at 20:55, time:7.173 sec

MAKE SURE YOU LET TINY BOOTLOADER FINISH WRITING TO THE PIC BEFORE YOU UNPLUG THE MINIMIG!!!

#10: With the Minimig switched off, move the “MCU” jumper on the Minimig back to the old position “FPGA”
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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 09:01:29 PM »
Also note that if the ROMs from AmigaForever are encrypted then they might not work with the core.  Best to download a KS1.3 or KS3.1 ROM off the internet or ask some nice chap here to email one to you.  ;)
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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 09:17:26 PM »
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Also note that if the ROMs from AmigaForever are encrypted then they might not work with the core.  Best to download a KS1.3 or KS3.1 ROM off the internet or ask some nice chap here to email one to you.  ;)


I THINK I read that encrypted ROMS now work... The whole encryption is XOR based anyway... talk about high-tech :)
 

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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 09:20:28 PM »
Thanks so much for all the great info! Must confess I'm a little surprised it won't boot straight out the box...

Do I recall that you can use an Amiga to update the PIC? I'm looking at Mac compatible USB serial adapters and bootloader software but it's looking like a fair bit of confusion as to what works.  I'm wondering if it might be easier to use my A600.  Is there any bootloader that will work with the Amiga by any chance?
 

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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2012, 09:31:24 PM »
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I THINK I read that encrypted ROMS now work... The whole encryption is XOR based anyway... talk about high-tech :)


LOL.  Considering they're easily available online I'm surprised they bother at all.  :)
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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 09:33:02 PM »
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Thanks so much for all the great info! Must confess I'm a little surprised it won't boot straight out the box...

Do I recall that you can use an Amiga to update the PIC? I'm looking at Mac compatible USB serial adapters and bootloader software but it's looking like a fair bit of confusion as to what works.  I'm wondering if it might be easier to use my A600.  Is there any bootloader that will work with the Amiga by any chance?


That I couldn't tell you I'm afraid.

Do you have a friend or family member with a PC?  It only takes a few minutes.  Don't forget:  NULL MODEM SERIAL CABLE.  ;)
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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2012, 09:46:57 PM »
No one that lives close unfortunately.  I might be able to get a spare 5 minutes at work though ;) just need to remember that NULL MODEM SERIAL CABLE :D
 

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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2012, 10:15:35 PM »
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Thanks so much for all the great info! Must confess I'm a little surprised it won't boot straight out the box...

Do I recall that you can use an Amiga to update the PIC? I'm looking at Mac compatible USB serial adapters and bootloader software but it's looking like a fair bit of confusion as to what works.  I'm wondering if it might be easier to use my A600.  Is there any bootloader that will work with the Amiga by any chance?


http://aminet.net/package/comm/misc/tinyulMUI on aminet should allow you to update the PIC fimware to the latest version with an Amiga,  I have not tried it as I just used my Thinkpads docking station with a real serial port under Windows XP.

You can find links to the lasted PIC fimware here http://www.minimig.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=336

and the latest FPGA fimeware for use with that firmware linked here http://www.minimig.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=397
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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2012, 10:36:12 PM »
Please do not change the firmware on the Minimig - we have already updated it to the most appropriate new version.  Please wait for our Technician response to your inquiry.

We do not ship the Minimig with old firmware on it.  We test every Minimig before sending to customers.

You need to use the appropriate files on the SD card to match the firmware we have flashed it with.  You get these if you buy an SD card with the Minimig.

Our Technician can point you in the right direction to which files to use.
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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 10:38:12 PM »
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Please do not change the firmware on the Minimig - we have already updated it to the most appropriate new version.  Please wait for our Technician response to your inquiry.

We do not ship anything with old firmware on it.  We test every Minimig before sending to customers.

You need to use the appropriate files on the SD card to match the firmware we have flashed it with.  You get these if you buy an SD card with the Minimig.


That's a nice touch updating the PIC before you ship.  :)
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Re: Minimig Setup Help
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2012, 10:49:04 PM »
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Please do not change the firmware on the Minimig - we have already updated it to the most appropriate new version.  Please wait for our Technician response to your inquiry.

We do not ship the Minimig with old firmware on it.  We test every Minimig before sending to customers.

You need to use the appropriate files on the SD card to match the firmware we have flashed it with.  You get these if you buy an SD card with the Minimig.

Our Technician can point you in the right direction to which files to use.


I'll hold back on that!  Thanks, I figured it was more than likely a fault at my end. :)