Is emulation based x86 machines in Amiga cases really a no no? or......

[danwood]

none of the Amiga cases was as iconic as the original C64. So I think there is not as much value in giving us "just the case".

I think the A500 is as iconic/recognisable.

[psxphill]

The last Amigas were made by Escom, and apparently there are people who can't accept this, which is not relevant of course. They can believe what ever they want to believe, but it doesn't change what Amigas are.

They were "made" by Amiga Technologies and sold by Escom. All they did though was manufacture the final commodore designs. The only difference between an Amiga technologies A1200 and a commodore A1200 is they added some jumper wires to allow the PC high density floppy drive to work at all (it's better to undo that and modify the drive as then you can get RDY to work as well).
 
If you buy the pcb design & case molds and get someone to manufacture them then you can call that an Amiga too. Although you'll need the custom chips, I suspect that Amiga Technologies never had any of these made though and they just were NOS chips from commodore.

[persia]

Yeah, Apple had been doing a Doomy with it's military spec G5s.  Since they had been running on both intel and PPC/IBM for years they knew when PPC performance fell behind intel and they were telling people how wonderful PPC performance was when in fact they KNEW it sucked compared to intel.

When they finally pulled the switch everybody notice how much faster the intels ran and praised them for it rather than pointing out their lies....

[brownb2]

Make you wonder, what if Commodore decided to do an Apple and go x86. Would all the no Intel narks still criticise it? IMHO the only reason Apple (and Commodore third party) went with PowerPC was because it was a natural replacement for the 68000 series. When Motorola dropped the ball Apple had no choice, if Commodore still existed it'd do the same imho.

[Pyromania]

Transition added a new selection for the poll. Please pick your favorite choice if you have not voted yet.

Here is a link for those that don't understand the reference.


http://www.cafepress.com/amizilla.9875668

[psxphill]

IMHO the only reason Apple (and Commodore third party) went with PowerPC was because it was a natural replacement for the 68000 series.

It wasn't that natural, Phase5 only did it because of Apple.
 
PPC wasn't the only processor choice for Apple, but IBM/Motorola looked like they had a decent roadmap.

[spirantho]

As far as I can see you just added another option which is the same as option 1.

And oh look, it happened to bump the thread out of its grave.

I've sen so many dead threads bumped back in  the last week it's looking like Sean of the Dead here.
Annoying thing is that sometimes good threads get kicked off the front page to make room for arguments that are done and dusted.... and what makes it worse is who do you complain to when it's the moderators who are doing the bumping??

[SysAdmin]

As far as I can see you just added another option which is the same as option 1.

And oh look, it happened to bump the thread out of its grave.

I've sen so many dead threads bumped back in  the last week it's looking like Sean of the Dead here.
Annoying thing is that sometimes good threads get kicked off the front page to make room for arguments that are done and dusted.... and what makes it worse is who do you complain to when it's the moderators who are doing the bumping??

I take that to mean your not a fan of women's thong underwear? You could complain to Orson Wells. Which good threads got bumped off the front page?

[Karlos]

PC guts in an Amiga style case. Hmm. If it shipped running something like AROS or an updated Amithlon, maybe. Otherwise, no. Other than a case, what would be the point? I have cases and I have ample experience in building PCs in different form factors.

[spirantho]

I take that to mean your not a fan of women's thong underwear? You could complain to Orson Wells. Which good threads got bumped off the front page?

The 11th thread is another one that you bumped (about C=USA "coincidentally"). The 12th one, and therefore the one that would have been on the front page had the zombie threads not been raised up from Thread Purgatory, was a perfectly reasonable question asking about C64 emulation on the A1200.

And whether or not I'm a fan of women's underwear (what is this, Commodore-Amiga.org?) is beside the point, that's not the kind of "Amiga" I come to Amiga.org for.

Please, just let these threads go off. If people want to contribute, they can still see them in the last 50 posts or whatever. But bumping zombie threads (or transparent excuses like adding a junk option about women's underwear to a finished poll) is doing nobody any favours. It seems like the mods aren't moderating any more so much as trying to prod contentious issues to raise arguments and get more bandwidth.

Can't we get back to talking about what we all have in common, i.e. the Amiga? That's certainly what the results of the poll in this very thread say.

[SysAdmin]

Yes, talking about Amiga is a great idea for this site.

[klx300r]

same junk again here:madashell: look Commodore themselves already tried unsuccessfully to put their logo on PC's back in the day and guess what happened to that venture:afro:..all power to CUSA for trying but this is the WRONG place to preach this crap...go over to the Linux forums please !

I've got many logos and stickers here to put on PC cases but I won't even waste a sticker as the thought is just absolutely absurd to me

[smerf]

For retro and sentimental value, there would be a lot of interested parties I suspect.  At 4x the price of any comparable machine just via the fact it's a "custom case", not up my alley in the least but such offerings have appealed to some people I suppose.

I always hated the Amiga wedge boxes, but if I had the option to purchase an A4000 style or other Amiga retro case that took commodity form PC motherboards, I would gladly if it was from a reputable company.  If and only if the price on said cases is comparable to the otherwise already available "generic" PC cases by guys like Thermaltake and etc. AIO/wedge PC's have always turned my stomach, even going back to the A500, heh - again, just preference.  I do understand why people likethem from a space saving aspect, though - but I've been using a KVM for 10 years, so space isn't much of a concern.

I have never been a fan of buying prebuilt pc's, regardless of what case they come in, mainly due to the fact putting together a custom PC via components is dead simple even for a first timer these days.  Same reason I had no interest in the X1000 since you cannot just buy the motherboard/OS package sans case, but building my own rigs is mainly preference and it's infinitely cheaper than buying prebuilt more enthusiast grade pc's.  If you can operate a TV remote, you can assemble a PC from parts.

Last prebuilt desktop PC I bought was in the late 90's, tbh - and I'd never buy one again for personal use, so the prebuilt fully built system ideal doesn't appeal to me.

Hi,

@Duce,

Wow, the last PC you had was in the 90's, that is if I understood you correctly, tell you what take a look see at TigerDirect.com and look at what the new PC's cost today, and look at what they can do. They have gone well beyond AGA and Paula, the graphics and sound are really great. I am running Cloanto's Amiga Forever on my new 6 core PC, and no way would I ever go back to a single processor PC of any type (even Amiga). AF runs so smooth that it makes my A4000 look sick (well not really) just a lot faster. Have no problems running ADF files and it even does programs like DPaint and Pen Pal. Is it Amiga, NO, but then again by running the AF emulator, I am saving my old Amiga silicon. Have a nice day.

smerf

[Duce]

Smerf,

Last "real" Amiga I used regularly was in the 90's.  Sold my A4000 back then, went to the PC.  4-5 years ago I picked up a PPC 1200, hated it.  Bought a SAM 440 shortly thereafter, love it.  It currently runs an old school telnet BBS, but doesn't see much use otherwise.

I build PC's for a living, and currently have an i7 running at 4ghz, with 2 590's, 24 GB RAM and jammed full of SSD's.  Mainly used for gaming, obviously.

My daily driver Amiga is an Amithlon box that hauls complete ass.

[Thorham]

When is this crap about non-Amigas going to end? Oh, wait, I know: Never

[persia]

Are you using the Amithlon to do anything besides transporting farm animals?

Smerf,

Last "real" Amiga I used regularly was in the 90's.  Sold my A4000 back then, went to the PC.  4-5 years ago I picked up a PPC 1200, hated it.  Bought a SAM 440 shortly thereafter, love it.  It currently runs an old school telnet BBS, but doesn't see much use otherwise.

I build PC's for a living, and currently have an i7 running at 4ghz, with 2 590's, 24 GB RAM and jammed full of SSD's.  Mainly used for gaming, obviously.

My daily driver Amiga is an Amithlon box that hauls complete ass.