Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community

[Duce]

Why does a company with a "projected $30 million marketing budget" need anyone to prepay for their computers?

Was sort of my question as well.  Never got an answer, well - because it's all just another attention grab marketing scheme, lol.

[commodorejohn]

Why does a company with a "projected $30 million marketing budget" need anyone to prepay for their computers?

I'm going to hazard a guess that the fee for Disney's much-vaunted "partnership" was somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 mil

[EDanaII]

Why does a company with a "projected $30 million marketing budget" need anyone to prepay for their computers?

Because a wise businessman doesn't invest money until he's sure he's got a pretty good ROI? If they can get 500 interested Amigan, they can be more confident of that investment...

[orb85750]

Because a wise businessman doesn't invest money until he's sure he's got a pretty good ROI? If they can get 500 interested Amigan, they can be more confident of that investment...

Wise? Maybe they shouldn't have dumped so much money into their current failures.  They could have used *that* money to create something useful and real (i.e. a real Amiga) without any of us having to put our money in escrow in order to see it come to fruition.

[amiman99]

Because a wise businessman doesn't invest money until he's sure he's got a pretty good ROI? If they can get 500 interested Amigan, they can be more confident of that investment...

Maybe there needs to be a POLL that asks if there are 500 people who are willing to participate. Lets say you vote "YES" if CUSA will do what you want, it does not matter which solution yet. We just need to find out if CUSA can get 500 people on board.
If you can only get 50-100 to agree then it does not matter what is decided.

 @rodomok said:
"I would love to have a brand spanking new A3000 motherboard to replace  my creaky original. I dump the critical chips from my old board into the  new one, maybe pick up some enhanced features like more ram or 040-060  cpu, blah blah, and I would be all set."
I would love to go this route too, we need new spare parts, maybe more compact or modern design.
I like this project for Amiga 1000: http://www.illuwatar.se/project_pages/gba1000/gba1000.htm

Another solution is to create faster accelerators FPGA or PPC based.

I personally want to stay Classic, maybe more modern, but classic. If I want powerful PC, I get 8 Core AMD.

[B00tDisk]

I think there'd be a viable* market for replacement motherboards** for classic Amiga cases.

A MiniMig II with a few active PCI slots for an A2000 case, with the USB and PS2 and video ports on breakout cables that attach to brackets on the back, or one that fits nicely into an A500 case and has extension cables that reach over to the holes for the various ports along the back and side might be nice.

...

*= a few hundred units
**= for 16 bit Amigas; the MiniMig's TG68 core is fundamentally a 68000 CPU irrespective of clock speed and might leave 030/040 users (a4000/3000) wanting.

[CSixx]

I'd like to see a $25,000 pc with an Amiga sticker on it...
How's that for a good idea you brainiacs?  diaf...

[anglosaxonusa]

@rodomok said:
"I would love to have a brand spanking new A3000 motherboard to replace  my creaky original. I dump the critical chips from my old board into the  new one, maybe pick up some enhanced features like more ram or 040-060  cpu, blah blah, and I would be all set."
I would love to go this route too, we need new spare parts, maybe more compact or modern design.

+1

I'd love to see replacement parts for classic Amigas.  Hell, even an *exact* copy of the A1200 wedge case back in production and adapter hardware to mount various motherboards in it (original, Natami, PPC, etc).

[EDanaII]

@ orb85750

Wise? Maybe they shouldn't have dumped so much money into their current failures. They could have used *that* money to create something useful and real (i.e. a real Amiga) without any of us having to put our money in escrow in order to see it come to fruition.

So, when somebody else in the Amiga community does a pre-order, it's OK, but when they do it they're dumb-asses?


@ amiman99

Maybe there needs to be a POLL that asks if there are 500 people who are willing to participate. Lets say you vote "YES" if CUSA will do what you want, it does not matter which solution yet. We just need to find out if CUSA can get 500 people on board.

If you can only get 50-100 to agree then it does not matter what is decided.

I think there will be the "ultimate" poll when the project is decided and costed. It's called a "put your money where your mouth is" poll in which Amiga users pre-pay for their system. 500 people buy in and the "poll" is satisfied.

[orb85750]

@ orb85750



So, when somebody else in the Amiga community does a pre-order, it's OK, but when they do it they're dumb-asses?

Others doing pre-orders don't have the purported unlimited capital that CUSA has.  (Of course, their financial situation is likely as fake as they are.)  But to answer your question, CUSA are dumb-asses whether or not they do pre-orders, as they have already proven, IMHO.

[Amiga_Nut]

Well what they are basically saying is "we don't know what you want us to make so we can sell it to you" and "we don't believe you know either and we won't make it unless we can guarantee something like $250,000 to $1,000,000 guaranteed sales of pre-orders paid for in Escrow"

[haywirepc]

Since apparently anyone can buy the rights to use the amiga name, I'm going to buy the rights to slap that name on a new computer I'll be making.

I have no idea of what kind of processor, or os it will use, or what it will look like.

(But don't worry the amiga community will LOVE IT!)

I'm not sure what kind of software it will run yet.

Of course before I invest a single penny of my own, I'm going to need 500 pre-orders.

Before I start accepting pre-orders though, first I have to take some time to insult every amiga camp, claim I have a 30million dollar advertising budget, steal my website text from apple, tell you all your not my target market then come back to you and beg for pre-orders for my new amiga dream machine.

Don't worry though, this new computer will go from pipe dream to manufactured product
in 6 months or I'll give you your money back.

"Only amiga makes it possible."

[Duce]

Glad someone else isn't blind to the whitewashing tactics with stuff like this, Haywire

Cheers!

[Amiga_Nut]

Since apparently anyone can buy the rights to use the amiga name, I'm going to buy the rights to slap that name on a new computer I'll be making.

I have no idea of what kind of processor, or os it will use, or what it will look like.

(But don't worry the amiga community will LOVE IT!)

I'm not sure what kind of software it will run yet.

Of course before I invest a single penny of my own, I'm going to need 500 pre-orders.

Before I start accepting pre-orders though, first I have to take some time to insult every amiga camp, claim I have a 30million dollar advertising budget, steal my website text from apple, tell you all your not my target market then come back to you and beg for pre-orders for my new amiga dream machine.

Don't worry though, this new computer will go from pipe dream to manufactured product
in 6 months or I'll give you your money back.

"Only amiga makes it possible."

So it's not just me then? :roflmao:

[Amiga_Nut]

I would like to direct you all to the following site to post your feelings on the subject of a new Amiga

http://www.the-amiga.blogspot.com

[lsmart]

So, when somebody else in the Amiga community does a pre-order, it's OK, but when they do it they're dumb-asses?

Normal preorders can be cancelled anytime and aren´t taken until there is an actual product. It is unusual to take the money, before production is ready to start.