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New year for Amiga
« on: December 12, 2011, 07:44:46 AM »
Hi,

New year is approaching very fast, as time for new resolutions.
What would you like for you and for Amiga in this new year coming up ?
Me, as a newbie, I expect to learn more and more about my new favorite system. I begin  to code on this platform and wonder about what would be the perfert soft expected by the community. What would be the next killer app ? A driver, a game, an application ?
For hardware, sorry to say, but I don't expect nothing but a return of the good old Amiga workstation with same hardware as far as possible.
I'm not too tempted by "modern" options, I'm not fond of rich interface and alike hogging precious resources.I prefer quality, simplicity and performance over appearance.
And what about you ?
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 10:00:45 AM »
AmigaOS on x86. That is the only way the user base will get a decent system at a realistic price. There'd even be a chance that the user base would grow! We wouldn't want that now, would we. Oh, and before someone mentions AROS - don't bother.

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 10:16:29 AM »
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AmigaOS on x86. That is the only way the user base will get a decent system at a realistic price. There'd even be a chance that the user base would grow! We wouldn't want that now, would we. Oh, and before someone mentions AROS - don't bother.


Not going to happen, that debate ended years ago.
I know you don't want to hear it, but AROS is the only x86 option.
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 10:20:03 AM »
b41d3r >> A game construction kit would be great, that would give a lot more users the option of contributing.
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 10:23:15 AM »
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Not going to happen, that debate ended years ago.
I know you don't want to hear it, but AROS is the only x86 option.


Bollocks.

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 11:08:26 AM »
@Yssing

Is  there not one yet ? not even started ?
Rather strange if so.
What a coincidence, I was thinking about a sprites manager.
That would be a good start, no ?
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 12:04:23 PM »
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Hi,

New year is approaching very fast, as time for new resolutions.
What would you like for you and for Amiga in this new year coming up ?
Me, as a newbie, I expect to learn more and more about my new favorite system. I begin  to code on this platform and wonder about what would be the perfert soft expected by the community. What would be the next killer app ? A driver, a game, an application ?
For hardware, sorry to say, but I don't expect nothing but a return of the good old Amiga workstation with same hardware as far as possible.
I'm not too tempted by "modern" options, I'm not fond of rich interface and alike hogging precious resources.I prefer quality, simplicity and performance over appearance.
And what about you ?
Drivers, because we need sound drivers for Sam460, drivers for the new graphic cards, and drivers for printers, and the OpenGL in Amiga OS4, after to work in new programs and games is more easy.
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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 01:16:45 PM »
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@Yssing

Is  there not one yet ? not even started ?
Rather strange if so.
What a coincidence, I was thinking about a sprites manager.
That would be a good start, no ?


There are some old ones, I am not sure if there even exist some for aga.
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 01:49:25 PM »
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b41d3r >> A game construction kit would be great, that would give a lot more users the option of contributing.

We're working on it! :)

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There are some old ones, I am not sure if there even exist some for aga.

There was a commercial one called Game Engine (I think) which allowed you to make AGA platform games. I don't know anyone who has it, but there was a demo on one of the Amiga magazines years ago.
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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2011, 02:00:48 PM »
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Not going to happen, that debate ended years ago.
I know you don't want to hear it, but AROS is the only x86 option.


It looks like AROS has not been updated in ages. I'd love to try it again.
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2011, 02:20:24 PM »
@cammy
I'm a java programmer and you certainly know it, we strongly believe in community efforts like in open source.
So my question, is your project opensource or can be tried for feedback ?
Have you a specific need about it? Something already planned ?
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 03:12:36 PM »
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Drivers, because we need sound drivers for Sam460, drivers for the new graphic cards, and drivers for printers, and the OpenGL in Amiga OS4, after to work in new programs and games is more easy.


He's asking about Amiga, not OS4.
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 03:14:26 PM »
This year, I'd like to get my game engine written, and ideally make some progress on one of the actual games...
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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 05:06:55 PM »
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There was a commercial one called Game Engine (I think) which allowed you to make AGA platform games. I don't know anyone who has it, but there was a demo on one of the Amiga magazines years ago.


http://amr.abime.net/review_10248

Demo was on this magazine:
http://amr.abime.net/issue_240
 

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Re: New year for Amiga
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2011, 06:53:33 PM »
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It looks like AROS has not been updated in ages. I'd love to try it again.


Actually AROS is updated every day and is moving along nicely in recent times.
The website layout is a bit confusing though, the snapshots (which arent really updated anymore) are at the top of the downloads page, which at a glance makes it look like aros itself has stalled. If you scroll down beyond that you'll see the nightly builds. Additionally the main page status updates arent updated often.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.