I think.........

[Digiman]

Amiga died in 1994 with Commodore.

As much as that makes me angry and sad I can't shake this feeling lately! Waiting for her to return is like waiting for the Galactica to FTL into orbit around the earth.....just a dream

Yours Hopelessly

[kd7ota]

Amiga died in 1994 with Commodore.

As much as that makes me angry and sad I can't shake this feeling lately! Waiting for her to return is like waiting for the Galactica to FTL into orbit around the earth.....just a dream

Yours Hopelessly

Fully agree with you. Used to be a diehard amigan back late 90s and was sworn by it.

Now its just nothing more but a hobby. Get your retro fix and leave it alone.... Don't see why some are getting hurt by that idea.  Personally I still think the commodore 64 is the best computer in the world.

[Duce]

Amiga died in 1994 with Commodore.

As much as that makes me angry and sad I can't shake this feeling lately! Waiting for her to return is like waiting for the Galactica to FTL into orbit around the earth.....just a dream

Yours Hopelessly

Not to compare apples to oranges, but the guys in the "other" camp said Microsoft was dead and buried when they switched focus from DOS to Windows.  Apple dudes said the Mac was "finished" when they switched to PPC and later to Intel.

The difference?  The clusterf*ck management at Commodore, more or less.

Truth is, back in those days computing was something different, IMO.  You had to be somewhat knowledgeable to keep one running, and that gave a sense of pride.  Computers were empowering tools, where as now most people just see them as commodity items to get **** done on.

[Digiman]

The anger and sadness is because if the preemptive multi-tasking kernal of Kickstart had millions thrown at it rather than Windows/Mac OS life would be better for ALL

But Amiga died young like Monroe or Dean and she is but a memory.

[560SL]

I'd say Amiga died when the Amiga brand was split and sold on the fleamarket. Getting it all under one roof again is as plausible as flying Titanic to the moon.

Get over it and treasure what we have! It's a hobby just like any else.

[Lando]

I think it died even before '94.  It had started falling well behind by 1992.  The Amiga section in 'Game' was shrinking on monthly basis, and was down to 2 shelves by then after previously having been an entire wall, the multi-format mags' Amiga coverage had gone from extensive to almost nonexistent, software publishers were leaving the Amiga in their droves, but mostly it had lost it's status in the eyes of the public.  It was no longer everyone's dream machine.  Games players now wanted a Megadrive or a SNES and the few serious users were looking more and more towards Mac and PC.

I don't think there has been another case in the history of home computers that a machine has been released that was so massively head and shoulders above anything else available at the time.  It quite literally blew everything else out of the water, nothing could touch it.    It was on the cover of all the computer magazines, there were news items about it on the TV, the press were raving about it, everybody wanted one.  That C= managed to screw things up so spectacularly is incredible.  They really were a very special kind of stupid.

No, it won't come back, ever.  I came back to the Amiga scene in about 2001 or so after I heard about this 'new Amiga' that was right around the corner and I'm still waiting for something worth buying ten years later.  The best thing to rise from the Amiga's ashes in the last 20 years has been MorphOS (in my opinion), it's the only thing had has really made me think 'wow' the first time I used it.

[orb85750]

I'd say Amiga died when the Amiga brand was split and sold on the fleamarket. Getting it all under one roof again is as plausible as flying Titanic to the moon.

Get over it and treasure what we have! It's a hobby just like any else.

Yes, but I'm not sure that's the fundamental issue.  What if it somehow were all under one roof again -- then what?  It's not clear that it would really matter. (Or am I missing something essential?)

[slayer]

The Amiga has never died and never will what has "died" or changed however is the people involved in the scene...

When commodore or whatever else happened that stalled any progress in the Amiga HW and most software occured, I simply just used what I had, I didn't move to any other platform and I still don't own any other computer.

Alot of people formed these different so called "retro" groups and so alot have choosen to stay there, for them the Amiga scene is now about recycling... I've always seen it as an excuse for people to justify or control there spending... "A modern Amiga? Bugger off, for one I'm not spending THAT much on what is merely a glorified PC, hell it doesn't even have a blitter!"

Remind you of anyone?

The Amiga was always going to evolve and the chips change GET IT! Sheesh!

Now it doesn't matter how many of you feel this way, your time with the Amiga is over... it is not going to change the Amiga for us and we don't need people like you... I only wish you'd stop spreading your perceptions because they are incorrect...

I think most people that didn't evolve are the game players... I haven't played games on my Amiga for about 15 years... perhaps there's something in that...

Enjoy your PCs or Macs, you deserve each other, eg if you can use another machine you are a 'computer user' but you're not an Amigan...

disclaimer: I'm not trying to be snarkie elite or anything but I do feel quite strongly about the Amiga... whether or not I'm over the top is speculation but I tell you if everyone that used an Amiga in the past felt like me, the Amiga would be a force to be reckoned with... in anycase if I have my way and business is good over the next few years I'll be joining Trevor too to add fuel to the fire...

You know what Harry said about "you know who"

We've got something worth fighting for ;-)

[XDelusion]

My classics still work, still getting upgrades.

MorphOS brings me to the modern age.

Amithlon works wonders.

AROS is very interesting.

OS 4 should soon be affordable hopefully.

I'm happy and I'm afraid of what would happen if it went main stream.

[Digiman]

The Amiga has never died and never will what has "died" or changed however is the people involved in the scene...

When commodore or whatever else happened that stalled any progress in the Amiga HW and most software occured, I simply just used what I had, I didn't move to any other platform and I still don't own any other computer.

Alot of people formed these different so called "retro" groups and so alot have choosen to stay there, for them the Amiga scene is now about recycling... I've always seen it as an excuse for people to justify or control there spending... "A modern Amiga? Bugger off, for one I'm not spending THAT much on what is merely a glorified PC, hell it doesn't even have a blitter!"

Remind you of anyone?

The Amiga was always going to evolve and the chips change GET IT! Sheesh!

Now it doesn't matter how many of you feel this way, your time with the Amiga is over... it is not going to change the Amiga for us and we don't need people like you... I only wish you'd stop spreading your perceptions because they are incorrect...

I think most people that didn't evolve are the game players... I haven't played games on my Amiga for about 15 years... perhaps there's something in that...

Enjoy your PCs or Macs, you deserve each other, eg if you can use another machine you are a 'computer user' but you're not an Amigan...

disclaimer: I'm not trying to be snarkie elite or anything but I do feel quite strongly about the Amiga... whether or not I'm over the top is speculation but I tell you if everyone that used an Amiga in the past felt like me, the Amiga would be a force to be reckoned with... in anycase if I have my way and business is good over the next few years I'll be joining Trevor too to add fuel to the fire...

You know what Harry said about "you know who"

We've got something worth fighting for ;-)

Until the resurrection of something akin to revolutionary A1000 in 1985 ie combination of OS AND Hardware 5x better than best PC or Mac alternative money can buy at 33% of their cost.......then Amiga is dead. At least A1200 had some advantage (eg 14mhz A1200 = 133mhz Pentium to run Super Stardust AGA). SAM/X1000/NATAI/MINIMIG......nothing revolutionary or even partially superior like A1000 or A1200 respictively.

Happy memories but RIP Amiga IMHO.

[efrenmgp]

Truth is, back in those days computing was something different, IMO.  You had to be somewhat knowledgeable to keep one running, and that gave a sense of pride.  Computers were empowering tools, where as now most people just see them as commodity items to get **** done on.

100% agree with you, I feel the same way. It was something special, and there were lots of alternatives... all of them different and with their own merits... but now it's kind of boring... same old same old but with more MHz, more RAM, more storage... etc.

Regards,
efrenmgp

[klx300r]

@ Digiman

why wait when you can be enjoying AmigaOS4.1 update 4 and soon OS4.2 on either Peg, Sam, X500, or X1000 (& Netbook soon) right now???

heck you can try Aros for free and MOS on old Apple hardware ...many options to get the Amiga feeling back nowadays

[EDanaII]

Amiga died in 1994 with Commodore.

Nooooo!!!!!....

[slayer]

Until the resurrection of something akin to revolutionary A1000 in 1985 ie combination of OS AND Hardware 5x better than best PC or Mac alternative money can buy at 33% of their cost.......then Amiga is dead. At least A1200 had some advantage (eg 14mhz A1200 = 133mhz Pentium to run Super Stardust AGA). SAM/X1000/NATAI/MINIMIG......nothing revolutionary or even partially superior like A1000 or A1200 respictively.

Happy memories but RIP Amiga IMHO.

Why are you people so obsessed with the specs or comparison of what the Amiga was to the world stage of that time?

It's like the All Blacks were the best rugby team in the world until the rest of the world caught up...

You simply aren't going to get this type of seperation again, well I wouldn't think so but who knows what's around the corner?, the Amiga was just the first back then, something had to be first...

I don't get it and you are arguing from the wrong vantage point... The Amiga will always be the Amiga whether it is technically the front runner or not...

To wish for the same advantage over anything else in the market today as far as performance and price goes and only THEN call it a valid Amiga is something quite laughable

Feel free to use your old Amiga systems and your modern day counterpart but please don't talk about this nonsense again

[amigadave]

These "Amiga is Dead" threads show up every few months here and on other Amiga sites.  They are a complete waste of time, unless you want to use one of them to motivate people to change their behavior toward participating in some kind of Amiga development, or project (which is not the case in this thread).

I think that the Amiga community is more alive today than it has been in years.  We are still in desperate need of more programmers to write new software for any and all of the different types of Amiga experiences.  The Amiga experience means so many different things to so many people still, I don't see how anyone can think that the Amiga is dead.

It is definitely different than it once was, but I would not call it dead.  Choose one or more part of the existing Amiga experience that still interests you and become involved.  Recruit new users or programmers, learn to program yourself and write new software, or port existing software to any, or all of the different Amiga experience flavors, set up a user group to rekindle the Amiga spirit in your area, etc.

There are dozens of ways to continue to support and enjoy the Amiga, you just need to decide which way you would enjoy and pursue it.  The Amiga is what you make of it.  If you are sad and disappointed that the Amiga did not fulfill it's ultimate possibilities and was driven into obscurity by the people who mismanaged it, get over it and enjoy what is left.  The past is ancient history and can't be changed.  Live for today and enjoy what you can.  If part of that is any of the Amiga experiences, great.  If it is not fun any more, maybe it is time to give it a break and come back to it later. (I am not promoting people leaving the Amiga, but some people probably should from the looks of a lot of the complaining and fighting that goes on in many of the forum sites).

I am enjoying all of my Amiga experiences and looking forward to the future and where it will lead.  I am also trying to become more active and pro-active in promoting and helping what is left of the Amiga community.

If you are still waiting for Amiga to make a comeback and become a mainstream competitor again, then yes, I agree that you are only dreaming.  Come back to reality and enjoy what we do have right now.

Funny that you should reference Battlestar Galactica.  I just started watching the whole series remake again on DVD.  It was one of the best SciFi series ever made IMHO and I think it broke a lot of new ground in it's creation and style.  It had comedy and drama in good proportions and the acting was pretty good for a TV series that lasted 4 seasons (really 5 or 6, because they only aired half a season during a couple of the years it was broadcast).  So, give a Frak and start enjoying your Amiga (what ever flavor they might be) again.

Edit:  Totally agree with Slayer that wishing for the Amiga to repeat the 5 times better at 1/3 the price, before anything can be considered an Amiga again is just plain stupid.  If that is really your opinion and attitude, it is time to step away for a while and re-asses your life and priorities maybe.  Again, computing on any of the Amiga experiences today is what YOU make of it.  YOU can make it good, or you can complain and bemoan what "Should Have Been".  Choose to do something that will make it better than it is and you will feel more fulfilled than the choice to complain and wish for something that does not exist.  I am also a realist and don't claim that any of the Amiga experiences are more than they actually are.  I point out their short-comings and try to support people that are working to improve the experience with new software and improved OS work.  I hope to do more in the future, but do what I can in the present.  Do what you can and you will feel better about it.  More people working on the problems will speed a resolution, but won't magically restore the Amiga to it's former glory.