Cloning the CyberstormPPC

[ddniUK]

They are still about... http://www.dcecom.de/

Good luck getting anything from them.

[EvilGuy]

The only reason I posted this is that, while not news, CyberstormPPC's are selling over €1000 these days

What? Really?

/me looks over at his CyberstormPPC

[billt]

I'd be happy just to see a CyberStorm running inside of PearPC.

It'd probably be easier to make PearPC look like a Sam4**... The CyberStormPPC has two very different CPUs with an unknown interconnect between them. If the goal is to run OS4, that's unnecessarily complicated. Go with the best simple design. (AmigaOneXE/Micro would be similarly simple, but skip emulating the problems there)

[marcfrick2112]

I would just like to see MANY new accelerators, for classic miggies...

Jens is doing Great work for sure,... but I wanna PPC in my 1200 someday... cries...

[Jose]

What? Really?

/me looks over at his CyberstormPPC

Yeah, not always, but it's close

[Jose]

Crying is not gonna help

[Jose]

BTW anyone noticed a few years that chinese guy selling E41J masks very cheap (less than €40 IIRC) ? A few months later I checked and he was selling them for €100 and later he had no more.
Demand and supply does work sometimes in practice, so since now there is demand maybe there is a small profit to be made. Frankly I'm getting fed up with all this and will probably not get anything new and that's what most of us will do. It will all die out and we don't care anymore, we're all starting to have wives and kids and getting into new hobbies:)

[freqmax]

What does DCE ..?, what are they about?

[HenryCase]

What does DCE ..?, what are they about?

DCE are the company that inherited the rights to the Phase5 PPC accelerator designs.

I tried buying the rights for the A2000 PPC accelerator from them about 4 years ago (admittedly for not a huge amount of money), they weren't interested in selling, and recommended it would be cheaper to design a board from scratch. Shame really, my idea was to adapt the design for the Minimig, though don't think it's necessary anymore, would much rather let the improvements in FPGA technology give us faster 68k CPUs.

[Plaz]

Are all the components still available?

No unfortunately. The topic has been discussed before (thread hiding around here somewhere) and that was one of the issues. A redesign would be necessary both because if obsolete parts and RoHS issues.

Plaz

[freqmax]

Is there a need for the old drivers etc.. to work as with the original boards?
Or could one write a new one relativly easily that would work with a new accelerator?

[Ancalimon]

People are actually paying more than 1000€ for the CyberstormPPC 233-060 cards. (I won't sell it even if people asked 3499€ for it)  I guess if someone produced a a new Classic Amiga with a 060-50 and a fast G5 with an onboard 64mb rtg card and sold it for around 2000$, people would line up. A thousand sales guaranteed. (better yet, make Natami like this)

Then I would be pulling my hair for not selling my old A4000T for 2500$

[freqmax]

It's mainly a question of expensive multilayer boards, signal integrity, pain-in-the-ass-DDR memory interface, small components handling to make one

Writing the software side is another..

[Digiman]

This is why I am rapidly losing interest in Amiga, either have a stock machine or emulate......no way would I pay £1000 for a 15 year old bit of kit that could stop working.

Greed of sellers and stupidity of buyers makes me question their sanity tbh

[Akiko]

Yes this question crops up now and again, and the consensus has always been it would not be viable, even if DCE released the schematics.

The only solution is a completely new PPC card built from the ground up, but when asked at Amiwest last year Jens Schönfeld dismissed the idea, so is unlikely to come from Individual computers. The only other small ray of hope I see, is if you listen to the speech Trevor Dickinson made at Amiwest this year, from 32 minutes into he mentions that three new hardware contracts have been signed with Varisys, so some wild speculation on my part, but at least one of these could *potentially* be a new PPC accelerator card aimed at classic Amiga's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PdywsoOPmI

[Ancalimon]

Yes this question crops up now and again, and the consensus has always been it would not be viable, even if DCE released the schematics.

The only solution is a completely new PPC card built from the ground up, but when asked at Amiwest last year Jens Schönfeld dismissed the idea, so is unlikely to come from Individual computers. The only other small ray of hope I see, is if you listen to the speech Trevor Dickinson made at Amiwest this year, from 32 minutes into he mentions that three new hardware contracts have been signed with Varisys, so some wild speculation on my part, but at least one of these could *potentially* be a new PPC accelerator card aimed at classic Amiga's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PdywsoOPmI

We don't really need PPC accelerators for Classic Amiga's. We need new classic Amiga's without the the limitations of the old ones. The old ones are failing day by day and you have to be tech savy to be able to keep one running properly.

I'd want to be able to have a similar speed with a Pentium4 running at 3ghz. I'd want the CPU to be a newly produced - still produced CPU.

I wouldn't care that much if the Amiga needed to emulate 68k.

I'd want to be be able to use "current" industry standards. I mean I don't want to look for ddr2 rams when everybody sells ddr3 rams today. I don't want to look for sata harddrives while ssd on a pci-express is going to become a standard in a year or two. I don't want to look for old ATI cards when I can buy ati 48xx, 58xx and 68xx cards easily today.

This machine should be comparable to PCs of 2005 yet priced around good PC's that are being produced today. 2000$ should be the maximum price without monitor and they should also have a slower version with a 999$ price.