OS 3.9 crazy boot time????

[orb85750]

Just *after* I paid and he shipped, the seller over at AmiBay disclosed the following to me:

"There was one more thing I wanted to tell you about the system. The boot time when you first start it up is 45 seconds until you get the Workbench background with the icons on the left side of the page. It is a full 2'30" until the background graphics loads."

What the hell, this is worse than MS Windows.  Is something wrong?  This is the system I just bought:

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=22372

Thanks for any insight you can offer.

[Jeff]

Is the network card plugged in?  I know that can cause a significant delay on an OS 4.x system. Sorry if that doesn't help.  I'm sure you will get it sorted - Nice System!

[efrenmgp]

That's a lot of time I agree...

I would say it's just a matter of reviewing startup-sequence and user-startup to determine what's taking so long, but seeing how heavily modified it is, maybe you'll need to verify how everything is connected.

For example, I see the card and the CD on the back of the computer, those may be IDE and IIRC the A1200's IDE port is no good with 2 devices unless you add special hardware. I'm just guessing but wouldn't that contribute to the long startup time? :confused:

Anyway, you're in for some testing once you receive the computer.

Regards,
efrenmgp

[doctorq]

Neither network card, nor two devices on the IDE controller adds to the boot time. I'm more convinced that it's caused by the software not been configured correctly, icons in chip ram, missing patches, etc. Having a fullblown background picture on 1230 takes time; disabling it will save you from a lot of the waiting time.

[Khephren]

Neither network card, nor two devices on the IDE controller adds to the boot time. I'm more convinced that it's caused by the software not been configured correctly, icons in chip ram, missing patches, etc. Having a fullblown background picture on 1230 takes time; disabling it will save you from a lot of the waiting time.

Dunno about that. For years I ran my A1200/030/50 with no patches, new icons and a full desktop picture. It booted in well under a minute.

I'd be tempted to wipe it and start again. At least you would know exactly what's on there.

[nicholas]

I'd just install PFS to the RDB, format the drive and install a fresh copy of OS3.9 + BB1 + BB2 + BB3 and then carry on from there.

[doctorq]

Dunno about that. For years I ran my A1200/030/50 with no patches, new icons and a full desktop picture. It booted in well under a minute.

I'd be tempted to wipe it and start again. At least you would know exactly what's on there.

There is a difference between running OS3.9 with what seems to be a .jpg, to a OS3.1 setup with NewIcons and a iff background (which I'm guessing is what you had).

[Khephren]

True, you'd have to be crazy to have a JPG on that spec machine. Here's hoping it's that simple. There's nothing worse than getting a new toy and having to fix it before use.

[bbond007]

Just *after* I paid and he shipped, the seller over at AmiBay disclosed the following to me:[/url]

Thanks for any insight you can offer.

That is a awesome A1200! I saw that on AMIBAY and wanted it  

I have 2 SATA ports that I have connected to eSATA ports, if I forget to turn on my external devices the FastATA driver will pause for a short while. I think the 4xIDE thing I had before was the same way. If you have some such device you may want to run the configuration tool for it and make sure to just save the settings. You can also just disable the driver in the startup-sequence and see if that improves your boot time but that will disable potentially all but your "System" partition.

Oops, I typed all that and realized you only had a 1GB CF. Still you may have  a 4xIDE adapter looking for a HD that the previous owner removed

You could always just make new CF card. 1GB is way too small... 4GB is really what you want. I would suggest installing ClassicWB ADV or ADVSP and OS 3.1.

http://classicwb.abime.net/index.htm

[Heiroglyph]

Between the IDE timeout, multiple drive controllers, kickstart reboot and too large background image, my 4000 is in similar shape.

I'd bet you could trim that down without a lot of problem.

[bbond007]

Between the IDE timeout, multiple drive controllers, kickstart reboot and too large background image, my 4000 is in similar shape.

I'd bet you could trim that down without a lot of problem.

Not only that but he could be having multiple reboots with Setpatch, LoadModule, PrepareEmul, etc...

[orb85750]

Hi guys.  Thanks for all your insights!  I'll count on spending some time with the machine once I receive it to see if there is some easy way to remedy the situation.  I suppose in the worst case, I can always make some coffee or tea every time I turn on the computer. :-)

[Ancalimon]

Not only that but he could be having multiple reboots with Setpatch, LoadModule, PrepareEmul, etc...

In that case he will need to use blizkick if his accelerator supports it. Have been using it for a long time. Great program

[save2600]

Is that CD/DVD combo drive a recordable deal by any chance? Every Amiga I've ever hooked one of those to, or any SCSI device that records, besides a HD, has always been a thorn in my side boot time wise. Something about logical unit numbers or some stupid **** that nobody should ever be bothered with. Even dealing with all the stupidity like changing drive and device numbers makes no difference.

To make matters worse, no version of your commercial software such as AsimCDFS, diddling termination or changing jumper settings (timeout or otherwise) has ever fixed that little "minor" irritation, which currently has me frosted with my current setup. Like I'd ever go through all the hoops necessary to burn, close and finalize a CD or DVD (even if it did accidentally work) using an Amiga. Pfffft.    :mad:

Seriously, anyone want this recordable SCSI Plextor/Plexwriter, whatever it's called POS? Gladly exchange it for a nice read only drive. Wish I never sold my nice read only NEC that worked flawlessly and allowed my system to boot in mere seconds, like a regular Amiga should and would running 3.1.  

[AmiDude]

Is that CD/DVD combo drive a recordable deal by any chance? Every Amiga I've ever hooked one of those to, or any SCSI device that records, besides a HD, has always been a thorn in my side boot time wise. Something about logical unit numbers or some stupid **** that nobody should ever be bothered with. Even dealing with all the stupidity like changing drive and device numbers makes no difference.

To make matters worse, no version of your commercial software such as AsimCDFS, diddling termination or changing jumper settings (timeout or otherwise) has ever fixed that little "minor" irritation, which currently has me frosted with my current setup. Like I'd ever go through all the hoops necessary to burn, close and finalize a CD or DVD (even if it did accidentally work) using an Amiga. Pfffft.    :mad:

Seriously, anyone want this recordable SCSI Plextor/Plexwriter, whatever it's called POS? Gladly exchange it for a nice read only drive. Wish I never sold my nice read only NEC that worked flawlessly and allowed my system to boot in mere seconds, like a regular Amiga should and would running 3.1.  

I never had any problems using recordable CD drives on any of my Amiga's. I'm using MakeCD for burning CD's without any problems. Here's a tip for y'all:
Don't mount CD0 at the startup-sequence, but only when you need to read/write data from/to a CD (when Workbench is already there). This way it decreases boot-time.