Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?

[Lord Aga]

You didn't have to use a flickerfixer?  Which SCART/VGA kit did you use? Where did you get it? Amigamaniac has an adapter as well...
 
Thanks, guys! You mind posting the specs/resolution of those TVs? I'm in the US...

No flickerfixer. Sharp LC42DH77E syncs down to Amiga frequencies. And it's just like plugging in a generic PC to a PC monitor. Ordinary VGA cable. Took one from my PC monitor actually. Of course you need RGB to VGA dongle for the Amiga end.
It is a 42 inch, full HD 1080p TV. Supports 50, 60 and 100 Hz.
But being a SCART equipped TV, I don't know if this model is on sale in the US.

[SquirrelM@ster]

I just made a call to Sharp about their flatscreen TVs with S-video inputs.
 
Here are three models and a link to where you can buy them, or at least see a pic:
Sharp LCD19D44U 19" manufactured in 2008
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC19D44U-19-Inch-720p/dp/B000WA3N8Y
 
Sharp LC20D42U 20" 2007
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/details/462333803
 
Sharp LC26D42U, LC26D43U  26" 2008
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC26D43U-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000NJDGMW
 
I'll have to search other sites and other brands...

[ChaosLord]

No flickerfixer. Sharp LC42DH77E syncs down to Amiga frequencies. And it's just like plugging in a generic PC to a PC monitor. Ordinary VGA cable. Took one from my PC monitor actually. Of course you need RGB to VGA dongle for the Amiga end.
It is a 42 inch, full HD 1080p TV. Supports 50, 60 and 100 Hz.
But being a SCART equipped TV, I don't know if this model is on sale in the US.

The instruction manual says it only works with 60hz.
And it only lists 31.5Khz and up for the VGA port.

[SquirrelM@ster]

The instruction manual says it only works with 60hz.
And it only lists 31.5Khz and up for the VGA port.

I'm a real rookie, so please pardon me. But, does the khz matter if it's going through an RBG adapter? When I called Sharp, the customer service rep said the Khz doesn't matter, just the resolution.
 
Is this true? Does ONLY the S-video input matter?
 
Here's a list of different LCDs with S-vid input:
http://reviews.cnet.com/tvs/?filter=1104537_5000985_500961_113205_500963_20611511_&tag=mncol;dir3

[ChaosLord]

I'm a real rookie, so please pardon me. But, does the khz matter if it's going through an RBG adapter? When I called Sharp, the customer service rep said the Khz doesn't matter, just the resolution.
 
Is this true? Does ONLY the S-video input matter?
 
Here's a list of different LCDs with S-vid input:
http://reviews.cnet.com/tvs/?filter=1104537_5000985_500961_113205_500963_20611511_&tag=mncol;dir3

Amigas do not produce S-Video.

If Amigas did make S-Video it would be all blurry like all S-Video is.

Amigas produce RGB crystal clear video on the RGB port which connects to the VGA port of the TV/Monitor.  On the VGA port, the Khz matters a lot.

[desiv]

But, does the khz matter if it's going through an RBG adapter?

Yes, it matters.

When I called Sharp, the customer service rep said the Khz doesn't matter, just the resolution.

They were wrong.
In their defense, I'm sure the device works with most modern devices that use standard plugs.

That being said, I've read where people hook up Amiga's to devices that supposedly don't scan down to 15khz, and yet they work.  So some "specs" are probably what they will "support", but not necessarily what they are limited to...

For me, I have 3 Amigas currently.
Amiga 1000 - 1084S monitor
Amiga 1200 - 1084S monitor (I have 2 1084s monitors)
Amiga 500 - depends ;-)
I have an Amigamaniac svideo adapter, which works great, and I use that sometimes to hook it up to my TVs in s-video.
Works great, but none of my TVs support PAL, so it won't do 60Hz.

It's awkward bringing the Amiga out to the living room tho, so I'll probably get an svideo - RCA cable and use it on my 1702 monitor with my Vic-20.  ;-)

desiv

[desiv]

If Amigas did make S-Video it would be all blurry like all S-Video is.

You apparently haven't seen the screenshots of Amiga's running s-video that are posted elsewhere here.
They are very sharp...
Search for some of Cammy's screenshots of her Amiga with amigamaniac's s-video adapter.

desiv

[Lord Aga]

The instruction manual says it only works with 60hz.
And it only lists 31.5Khz and up for the VGA port.

Nopity nope
Well it HAS to do 50 Hz. It's a European PAL TV. It also does 60 Hz and 100 Hz. Tested with my PC.
And I don't have any flicker fixers on my A1200 and A600 So it does 15 KHz. Kickstart screen and everything

I'm a real rookie, so please pardon me. But, does the khz matter if it's going through an RBG adapter? When I called Sharp, the customer service rep said the Khz doesn't matter, just the resolution.

Told ya they wouldn't know If you can, it is best to take your Amiga to the store and try it out.

[ChaosLord]

Nopity nope
Well it HAS to do 50 Hz. It's a European PAL TV. It also does 60 Hz and 100 Hz. Tested with my PC.
And I don't have any flicker fixers on my A1200 and A600 So it does 15 KHz. Kickstart screen and everything

Ok I am glad u double clarified things.

What we can surmise from this is that either:
A: The ppl who write instruction manuals at Sharp are idiots.
or
B: Someone at Sharp forgot to activate the Sabotage code that disables the 15Khz compatibility.

I wish to Huelsbeck you had a 50 inch version of that monitor (or 55 inch because I would try to buy one right now.

But as it is only 42 inches....  I am thinking about it...

Have u ever connected ur windoze pc to ur 42" monitor/TV?  How did it look?

The reason I ask is because the review I just read claims that the triangular pixels make it not the best choice for pc usage.  PC usage is the main reason I want a large LCD monitor.  Secondly I want to be able to connect my Amiga up to it.

The review also said that ur monitor does not do free deinterlacing, even tho the previous model did. (?!?)

I suppose it is too old to have an LED backlight?

[Lord Aga]

Well, I'm flipping through the pages of the HUGE manual, and it indeed says 60Hz / 31KHz on VGA.
But in their defence, it is titled "PC compatibility chart". As in: "we didn't list the non-PC stuff"

It is hooked to my PC. I use it for 1080p movies. The picture is nice and clear. But the dot pitch is enormous. So you will notice that long before the triangular, rectangular or hexagonal (long live the History Line !) pixels. Depends on how far you are from the screen. And from personal preferences I guess... I find the picture great.

I don't quite remember about deinterlacing "How is that possible?" you ask Well, I tried out all possible resolutions and modes (the TV has many picture modes) when I got the TV. So I tried a gazzilion combinations, and don't remember squat. Just settled for default res Workbench. My A1200 is dismantled for retr0brighting at the moment, but I can fire up my A600 in the morning and test it. Was about time to try out all those stuff I transfered to CF card anyway...

It doesn't have LED.

[motrucker]

I see a couple of people have finally noticed that there is a huge difference between European and North American systems. Some options just don't  cross the Atlantic well (if at all). This really needs to be taken into consideration!

[marcfrick2112]

I don't know anything about the TIMM, and I couldn't find any pics online. My work computer wouldn't let me view your pic.
 
Anyway, it sounds like a bit of a rare monitor. Is it? I'm glad you found such a great monitor!

Hmm, sounds like your work PC is acting up, I had little trouble finding info about it...
I would say it's an uncommon monitor, in PC circles.... For Amigans? Let's just say I knew a guy (hard-core Toaster/Flyer nut) who owns *5* of these monitors!

The last year that GenCon (gaming/fantasy expo) was held in Milw. They had an Amiga classic gaming area... 6 A1200's set up with 6 matching TIMM monitors.. :drools:

[branney]

Toshiba 40" 1080p TV, via RF cable (just like the old days!)

the size of screen instantly made me somehow better at Road Rash than when i was 16

[mechy]

Dell st2420L here.. works with all 15khz+ amigas just hook it to the dell with the C= silver rgb to vga adapter. works great on mediator setups also,feed the stock amiga video to the vga port and the radeon to the other port. 1 monitor solution.

sl2320L,st2320L also work.its led backlight too!

mech

[Lord Aga]

The review also said that ur monitor does not do free deinterlacing, even tho the previous model did. (?!?)

Regarding deinterlacing...
Well, it does and it doesn't
For instance, in GAME mode it doesn't do deinterlacing. So, it behaves just like a, say, 1084 monitor.
In NORMAL mode it does deinterlace, and the hi res WB picture is beautiful. But it has an annoying lag. Cursor moves like on a rubber string. So, maybe for looking at pics. But it is really annoying for work.

Well, I still have to test my ViewSonic VX2235wm PC monitor. Maybe I'll get lucky with it Or at least test productivity modes with my A1200...

[SquirrelM@ster]

Regarding deinterlacing...
Well, it does and it doesn't
For instance, in GAME mode it doesn't do deinterlacing. So, it behaves just like a, say, 1084 monitor.
In NORMAL mode it does deinterlace, and the hi res WB picture is beautiful. But it has an annoying lag. Cursor moves like on a rubber string. So, maybe for looking at pics. But it is really annoying for work.
 
Well, I still have to test my ViewSonic VX2235wm PC monitor. Maybe I'll get lucky with it Or at least test productivity modes with my A1200...

Have you had a chance to try that ViewSonic VX2235wm? I'm curious how that worked out.