NEC usb hack for mediator

[mechy]

@mboehmer_e3b : excellent post, you hit on the stuff my simple/quick message left out. The deneb is a incredible feat and outclasses the spider ( i know,i own both).
Its a excellent card. i also own a algor pro and it has been a great card.
Would you care to give us a rough estimate of cost on everything involved to make the deneb?

mech

[slaapliedje]

I really wanted to get a Deneb, if only because it would be supporting Amiga hardware manufacturers and not a generic PCI manufacturer.  I also find (after having already purchased the Radeon and Mediator from Elbox) that I don't much care for a lot of their history and practices.  If I had been able to get a different PCI bus, I would have.

But really, that's what I think this comes down to.  You support the ones who deserve it.  For example, the CUSA I think only deserves a little bit support.  Why?  Because they have managed, at least in a small way, to bring the Commodore name back into the minds of the public.  For about as long as the public has any attention span anyhow.

I still wouldn't buy an overpriced x86.  I have enough of those already that I could close my eyes and imagine it's an Amiga or C64.  Not to mention, I'm not a big fan of Mint Linux.

But *******s don't really deserve to be supported.  Maybe it's a cultural thing and Polish people are just that way?    I still remember over here in the USA when Pollock jokes became blond jokes...

So how are we doing this?  We buy one from Mechy then have to google our brains out for the spider.device?  I have the older version that came with my mediator, but since Elbox did this dirty deed...

The Mediator and PCI Busboards for the Amiga were supposedly so you could buy cheap PCI hardware to use instead of the expensive and extremely rare Zorro cards.  So if Elbox is a bit butt hurt by this.. well it is what they created it for!  That's the reason I bought it initially, because I wanted to be able to use a cheap network card and video card.

slaapliedje

[strim]

Maybe it's a cultural thing and Polish people are just that way?

Nope.

[stachu100]

I will second @strim.
Not because I'm Polish, but because it's not true.

@slaapliedje,
In general it's not nice to judge whole nation based on one example. Even if this example is 100% real.
In every nations they are good and bad people, hopefully the first type is majority everywhere.

Jokes are subject to discuss, but I can tell you that we have a lot of jokes about Americans too. Hopefully you don't know them. ;-)

[wawrzon]

elbox doesnt deserve any support beyond the opportunity to buy their product. plain and simple, thats what they offer, take it or leave it. you can of course mod whatever you want, you have bougt it, its yours, its up to you.

[mechy]

I still have about 12 of these usb cards left and ready to work in mediators if anyone needs any. Please PM me here if you want one.

thanks,

Mech

[Bamiga2002]

I'll quite gladly host it for download on CommodoreAmiga.ir if someone sends me the file.

Your pages still say "2 more weeks"... ??

[mechy]

BUMP!  Still have more cards left if anyone needs them! $20 shipped USA,$25 shipped Overseas.5 port USB card with NEC chipset.
Just PM me If you would like one

NEC_USBcard.jpg

Just reprogrammed the eproms on a few different pci USB cards last night with the NEC chipsets. Thanks goes out to the guy who posted about how to do this.
My process goes something like this- Desolder the eprom,stick it in a  soic adapter and that goes into my eprom burner,load some edited eprom  code, shoot it to the eprom,remove it,solder it back on the  board.Nothing too hard just takes time.
 Seem to work fine in my A4000 with 5v Mediator. i did a 3 port and 5  port.Tested keyboards,memsticks,transcend card reader,some windows usb  cam(unrecognized)and the sony camera.
The green usb card has a 3.3/5v jumper onboard(seems to run in either  position in my 5v mediator with no bad effects). the black card has no  voltage jumper.I tested these about 1 hour.
all ports seem to work fine. This was under workbench 3.9 with poseidon  4.4 (thanks chris!) ,spider.device v3.21.My config is  csppc,radeon,sb128,100Mbit ethernet.

If anyone who doesn't have the capability to do these themselves needs  one i can probabaly offer the 5 port for $15-20 ready to go if anyone is  interested but alot of you can do it cheaper i'm sure.I haven't tried  these in the newer 1200 3.3v mediators,but no reason for them not to  work work.
Don't be surprised if elbox pulls some change in the next drivers update though.
-Mech-

EDIT:
Mediator Driver install: -how i did it-
BACKUP YOUR INSTALL FIRST! you have been warned.
Simply make a drawer called usbhardware in devs: if you don't have this from a previous mediator install.

Copy the spider.device to the above drawer - it must be 3.21 (using anything earlier might have bad effects!?!?!)

Get Poseidon 4.4 (thank chris and your lucky stars for this-maybe buy him something on his wish list).

install Poseidon 4.4 as normal,but don't select ANY of the hardware driver devices(no deneb,no subway etc -deselect all)

go thru the rest of poseidon as normal installing classes and such.

Reboot

Start trident (it should be in sys:Prefs) and goto the "devices" window (it will be empty)

open a cli and enter:
AddUSBHardware Devs:USBHardware/spider.device 2
AddUSBHardware Devs:USBHardware/spider.device 0
AddUSBHardware Devs:USBHardware/spider.device 1

you should see stuff pop up in the trident devices window as you enter and hit return on each of the above in cli.

hit the save at the bottom of the trident window and you should be ready to go!

[Darrin]

BUMP!  Still have more cards left if anyone needs them! $20 shipped USA,$25 shipped Overseas.

You might want to mention what the cards look like.  3 USB sockets on the back and 1 angled socket to attach something inside the case?

If you have a Mediator then installing these cards is as simple as copying the spider.device into the correct folder, installing Poseidon and then activating the spider device in the Trident preferences (as Mechy detailed above).

If you already have a Deneb installed then you can have both the Deneb and the Spider running together (just activate the spider device in Trident - no need to update Poseidon).  In fact, if you have a Deneb up and running then it really is as simple as copying the spider.device and then activating it in Trident.  Click/click and off you go.

[mechy]

Good idea darrin

[slaapliedje]

I will second @strim.
Not because I'm Polish, but because it's not true.

@slaapliedje,
In general it's not nice to judge whole nation based on one example. Even if this example is 100% real.
In every nations they are good and bad people, hopefully the first type is majority everywhere.

Jokes are subject to discuss, but I can tell you that we have a lot of jokes about Americans too. Hopefully you don't know them. ;-)

Necro defense!  Sorry, I hadn't seen this reply.  Yeah, I was making a total tongue in cheek reference.  I would most likely agree with all the American Jokes (not entirely fond of the United States lately, or for that matter many years.  The people here are pretty retarded, and the fact that I live in Utah, they're even worse here.)  Any generalization is bad though.  There are always exceptions to the rule, especially since the USA is such a huge place, it's better to make jokes about specific states the same way you would about countries in the EU.  For example, I'd make incest cracks about those in Arkansas or Alabama, Polygamist jokes about people in Utah, and of course the Steers and Queers jokes about Texas.



Back on topic and more modern things... you still have any more of these cards?  

I would like one (wanting to replace the ol' two button ball mouse with an optical USB one.)

slaapliedje
slaapliedje

[Methuselas]

@Slap,

You're just jealous 'cos Utah isn't a real place and is full of evil Mormons! Haven't you seen Orgazmo??? XD



[NOTE] - This comment was made in humor and  is deemed as "satire", so I am hereby protected by my first amendment right of free speech! ;P


[EDIT] - Hey! Even though I wasn't born in Texas and no longer live there, I'm still a Texan! But my Avatar has a horn, so I guess we know where I'm going with this.





All joking aside, this is a douche move by Elbox. I smell a torrent coming.......

[ciVic]

Is there any way to get it working under OS4.1?

[slaapliedje]

@Slap,

You're just jealous 'cos Utah isn't a real place and is full of evil Mormons! Haven't you seen Orgazmo??? XD



[NOTE] - This comment was made in humor and  is deemed as "satire", so I am hereby protected by my first amendment right of free speech! ;P


[EDIT] - Hey! Even though I wasn't born in Texas and no longer live there, I'm still a Texan! But my Avatar has a horn, so I guess we know where I'm going with this.





All joking aside, this is a douche move by Elbox. I smell a torrent coming.......

I have seen Orgazmo and LOVE IT (own it on DVD, even the awesome edition where Trey Parker and Matt Stone and the guy with the dildo on his head play a drinking game!)

I am surrounded by evil Mormons.  

All of my jokes about Polish people were tongue in cheek

Anyhow, I'm still interested in one of these USB cards if any are available PM will be sent right after this message.

slaapliedje

[mechy]

Necro defense!  Sorry, I hadn't seen this reply.  Yeah, I was making a total tongue in cheek reference.  I would most likely agree with all the American Jokes (not entirely fond of the United States lately, or for that matter many years.  The people here are pretty retarded, and the fact that I live in Utah, they're even worse here.)  Any generalization is bad though.  There are always exceptions to the rule, especially since the USA is such a huge place, it's better to make jokes about specific states the same way you would about countries in the EU.  For example, I'd make incest cracks about those in Arkansas or Alabama, Polygamist jokes about people in Utah, and of course the Steers and Queers jokes about Texas.



Back on topic and more modern things... you still have any more of these cards?  

I would like one (wanting to replace the ol' two button ball mouse with an optical USB one.)

slaapliedje
slaapliedje

Sorry all, these cards have long been sold out.

I was wondering why i was getting so many Pm's and such all of a sudden.
if i keep getting so much interest i may have to run off another batch.
Mech

[slaapliedje]

Oops!  Well, count me in for one!  I have had a few crappy months and couldn't get any money to put toward my Amiga.

I have also wanted to clear up the lock ups that I posted in a different thread.

slaapliedje