Amithlon VS WinUAE VS AROS question (OS 3.9 related)

[Digiman]

Most of the CPU time will be spent emulating a 68k CPU, so don't expect miracles.

Think of it as a cheap hyper fast Amiga, like a PPC system.  It's never going to be as fast as a native x86 machine, OS and software because it has to spend time pretending to be something else.

Don't get me wrong, I love Amithlon, but you have to like it for what it really is.

I meant from proper loadsharing of CPU resource. My A1000 multi-tasks more appropriately than XP it seems in % of CPU power. The encoding should not have affected AVI playback ever if set to realtime

[Heiroglyph]

I meant from proper loadsharing of CPU resource. My A1000 multi-tasks more appropriately than XP it seems in % of CPU power. The encoding should not have affected AVI playback ever if set to realtime

There are many, many things that could cause that.

For example, look at the NewTek TriCaster Studio. It can encode a web stream, record a stream of video, play back two streams of video plus switch 6 live video inputs all at once.  

That runs on Windows XP with pretty moderate hardware, but it's a well oiled machine.

There are any number of factors that could cause the video to skip on your system but I can guarantee you that it's not a Windows design flaw.

[Amiga_Nut]

There are many, many things that could cause that.

For example, look at the NewTek TriCaster Studio. It can encode a web stream, record a stream of video, play back two streams of video plus switch 6 live video inputs all at once.  

That runs on Windows XP with pretty moderate hardware, but it's a well oiled machine.

There are any number of factors that could cause the video to skip on your system but I can guarantee you that it's not a Windows design flaw.

Think it is, I use the same program for video encoding as it is the best regardless of cost for FLV conversion and Windows ignores any setting of task priority to "low" on Task Manager and happily assigns 99-100% CPU to the encoder process

Also it works just as badly if you try to get Windows to play HD content better by telling it the CODEC process needs to be "high" or "realtime".

It's like those options are fake and don't actually do anything haha

[fishy_fiz]

Sorry, I missed the question 1st time around,.... it varies, but for 68k amithlon is probably between 90 and 200% of the speed of winuae on the same hardware depending on what its doing. The heavier the load the faster amithlon is vs winuae. Video is much faster on amithlon, heavier multitasking there's a big difference, lame encoding, video enconding, emulation,etc. all much faster on amithlon.

I also disagree that its possible to build a faster uae box vs. amithlon box. Amithlon can be used on the very latest hardware (Ive used it on both an i5-760 and an i7-2600k as an experiment, although my actual amithlon box is an old 3.86ghz core2duo (which is typically still faster than winuae on my Windows box (the aforementioned i7-2600k) .

[Rodomoc]

Give WinUAE a whirl first and see how that goes. If you already have a PC then this is not such a big investment. I'm not sure how well Catweasel PCI card is supported, but you could probably get Amiga floppy and joysticks easy enough through WinUAE. It will meet your chipset requirements, have use of the fastest hardware, and otherwise run fairly decent when you get WinUAE tweaked just right. I dink around with Amikit this way. And am investigating a much simpler 3.1/BetterWB setup this way. As far as seeing Windows or dealing with it, I have hear of ways to minimize its visual exposure.
 
Amithlon is very cool in a different usage regard. But maybe not the easiest path to attempt plus I wouldn't think your 68K UAE experience would be the best. I plan on soon jumping back into Amithlon with some kernel4 compatible hardware i have. And yes it will be in an old A2000 case too.
 
I have not personally tried the latest Aros w/ UAE. Looks good on the screen shots... This is easily tried without a big budget thanks to cheap PC hardware you probably already have.

[Amiga_Nut]

Sorry, I missed the question 1st time around,.... it varies, but for 68k amithlon is probably between 90 and 200% of the speed of winuae on the same hardware depending on what its doing. The heavier the load the faster amithlon is vs winuae. Video is much faster on amithlon, heavier multitasking there's a big difference, lame encoding, video enconding, emulation,etc. all much faster on amithlon.

I also disagree that its possible to build a faster uae box vs. amithlon box. Amithlon can be used on the very latest hardware (Ive used it on both an i5-760 and an i7-2600k as an experiment, although my actual amithlon box is an old 3.86ghz core2duo (which is typically still faster than winuae on my Windows box (the aforementioned i7-2600k) .

Do you mind if I ask you for advice on getting Amithlon and OS3.9 up and running on a spare Athlon XP machine? Sound and network not essential just want to try Amithlon and OS3.1 or OS3.9 (or both) on the machine

[psxphill]

Also it works just as badly if you try to get Windows to play HD content better by telling it the CODEC process needs to be "high" or "realtime".
 
It's like those options are fake and don't actually do anything haha

Why would you set a processor intensive process to realtime? I guess you had multiple cores or your machine would just become unresponsive.
 
If you did the same thing on amigaos then be prepared to wait until the process finishes before you can click on anything.

[bloodline]

Why would you set a processor intensive process to realtime? I guess you had multiple cores or your machine would just become unresponsive.
 
If you did the same thing on amigaos then be prepared to wait until the process finishes before you can click on anything.

+1

Some people are really confused about priorities and how to use them :-/