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Offline Tomas

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Re: Windows is shuting down.........next day: "windows is shutting down"
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 07, 2004, 07:46:08 PM »
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It's been years since I've seen any of my systems not shut down properly, so I simply won't believe anyone who says they do all of the above and still gets problems.
So just because it works on your pc, means it should work the same way on totally different hardware??
And also, this problem was a known bug with certain windows versions, like for example WindowsME..
This was a problem that was more common on faster systems..


Say hello to the concept of reading my entire post, instead of nitpicking a single sentence out of context :-)

Well i have seen problems even when using microsoft certfied drivers and hardware that is supposed to be decent..

But i guess your definition of good hardware=those who work flawlessly with windows  ;-)
Take for example of my dads pc... It was horrible unstable under WindowsXP, never managed higher uptimes of more than max a week... A year or so ago i decided to install linux instead, and has since then not had any stability problems at all.. Same pc had a uptimes of over 80 days...

I am not saying that linux is better in all ways, but Windows do has is share of problems, so does linux in other aspects..
 

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Re: Windows is shuting down.........next day: "windows is shutting down"
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2004, 07:46:29 PM »
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Unfortunately it is sometimes impossible to avoid this. Remote desktop, ODBC data sources, microcrud vb.net framwork server & other rubbish like that, which is useful rubbish


No it isn't "impossible".  But it is irritating that they are installed needlessly, but that's the MS way of doing things, sadly.

Remote Desktop can be unconfigured so it won't be running all the time, although ODBC would take some significant work to remove (and unnecessary, I've never heard of ODBC drivers causing problems with system reliability).  ".NET" is just a marketing slogan that loads of things have been badged with for the last couple of years :-)  It means several different things, and virtually no theme on common across products.

 

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Re: Windows is shuting down.........next day: "windows is shutting down"
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2004, 07:47:48 PM »
just a pic to show he isn't lying  ;-)

Pic of xp with "new hardware found" http://aa.domaindlx.com/pkx89/battery.jpg
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oh yeah, forgot to add, i don't shut my comp down using windows shutdown (heh heh, lucky i spotted the typo  :-) ) i made my own little vb proggy which closes all processes (if not possible it ignores them) and then does a force shutdown anyway  :-D
 

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Re: Windows is shuting down.........next day: "windows is shutting down"
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2004, 07:49:37 PM »
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Well i have seen problems even when using microsoft certfied drivers and hardware that is supposed to be decent..

Microsoft consider all of its wares to be "decent" :-)

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But i guess your definition of good hardware=those who work flawlessly with windows

:-)  As with any tool, you have to be sure it fits the purpose you're going to be using it for.  It would be dumb to buy a high-end graphics card for use in *NIX when there is no support for its high-end'ness, for example :-)

If I'm buying new hardware, I do a lot of research first.  Technical hardware forums, google searches for issues with it, etc.  Even seemingly irrelevant issues (like say hardware<-> Linux issues) can be of use in my decision.

 

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Re: Windows is shuting down.........next day: "windows is shutting down"
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2004, 08:06:00 PM »
to know if it's crap, first we have to install it, besides, having so much people behynd Windows they should have a better system.

On Amiga only one time I screwed it up when messing with PFS, by the very nature of Windows one have to be too much carefull which one install... damn registry.

I can have my amiga full of programs, the hd full and not even an hickup, the windows... it need a reinstall every 6 months...

Very sad indeed, if this is evolution..

how one know if it's crap if one doesn't


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Re: Windows is shuting down.........next day: "windows is shutting down"
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2004, 08:21:05 PM »
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What's your system's spec, out of interest? I might give them a try as well


Hmm... Well, it's a bit of an older system that is about to get a new proc and motherboard (new build of Windows, etc..), which was why I ran the benchmark, to get a good before/after.

Anyhow, you can see the system details at
my 3dMark 2003 compare score
 

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Re: Windows is shuting down.........next day: "windows is shutting down"
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2004, 09:42:57 PM »
windows sux at shutting down, gotta remember windows leaves programs open all the time, even when u close them.  you prob have a conflict of certain programs wh en it shuts down, making it unstable (wow thats a new concept for windows).  once a prog becomes unstable at shut down its near impossible for windows to close it, making shutdown unable to work.  If it happens try using ctrl+alt+DELt then when a box or warning screen comes up use it again, most of the time it'll reboot w/o the scan disk coming up.