WinUAE and Zp Drive

[gwalp]

I am using Amiga Forever v5 .  I cannot get it to read my Amiga Formated Zip Disks in the ZIP drive. It is an external SCSI drive.  
Icon Info is set as follows
Activate = 1
Startup = 1
device =  uaescsi.device
unit = 1
The  drive is configured to scsi id 6. The ICON info is loaded in the DEVS/dosdrivers drawer.
If I put a PC disk in the zip drive it will read the disk.  I have lots of programs archived on zip disks and would like to use them. I have my old Amiga harddrive hooked up and it reads it fine.   My SCSI is not working on my  A4k.   Any suggestions

[shaf]

I have had the same problem. I am running WinUAE on a Pure SCSI system. (No IDE Devices are used)

From Previous notes from Toni real SCSI Devices have never been tested With WinUAE with the exceptions of CD-ROMS and SCSI Hard Drives.

I have also tried using OPS 3.9 with both Biong Bags installed with no luck.

One Option I have not used yet is to try using Squirrel (Oregon Research) Zip/Jazz tools with WinUAE.

Cheers

Shaf

[Thomas]

Follow these instructions: http://home.t-online.de/home/thomas-rapp/uaescsi.html (Part 1 only). If your Zip drive does not appear in this list, you've no chance to mount from AmigaOS.

You might need to use the -noaspifiltering switch of WinUAE.exe to see the Zip drive.

You might also try to use the -disableharddrivesafetycheck and use uaehf.device instead of uaescsi.device. But be warned: if you accidentally access your Windows hdd with Amiga tools you might suffer total data loss !!

Bye,
Thomas

[gwalp]

Thomas
The problem is not getting the ZIP drive to mount. The IOmega ZIP drive mounts when I use uaescsi.device unit 6. The Zip drive will read PC formatted disks but not Amiga formatted disks.

Does WinUAE treat the ZIP disk like a floppy?

[Thomas]

*Where* do you use uaescsi.device unit 6 ? Which software (file system) do you use ?

If you use Fat95 or crossdos you certainly can only read PC ZIPs. Accordingly you can only read Amiga ZIPs if you use FFS instead.

You could use XFS which can read both. http://www.aminet.net/aminet.cgi?string=disk+xfs

WinUAE does not treat ZIP disks as anything. It does only map uaescsi.device calls to ASPI calls. Probably ZIP drives mounted using uaescsi.device are removable just like CD-ROM drives.

Bye,
Thomas

[gwalp]

I use Windows XP Pro and have the hard drive  formated NTFS. Windows is more stable.
In the WInUAE config screen  I select use uaescci.  
When WB boots in the ZIP.info I select Unit 6.

[Thomas]

Where did you take ZIP.info from ? Neither AmigaOS nor AmigaForever contain such.

And did you test that the ZIP drive actually is at uaescsi.device unit 6 ? AFAIK WinUAE renumbers the SCSI IDs for uaescsi.device. Check the log as I mentioned earlier.

Bye,
Thomas

[pjhutch]

The ZIP DosDriver needs to be created in a text editor so that it can read scsi ZIP disks.

See guide on DosDrivers/Mountlists on my website:
http://www.pcguru.plus.com/guides.html

[gwalp]

I loaded the ZIP driver on my harddrive from the Squirrel Zip disk I bought years ago when I was still using OS3.1 on my real A4000. When I upgraded to 3.5 and then 3.9 it was there and worked.
As for WinUae, when I put my Amiga drive into my PC machine under WinUae since the Zip drive was  already installed on my PC I  was able to select it in the WinUae configuration just like a CD-Rom using Add Dirctory under Hard Drive.  WinUae loaded and it works fine reading PC formatted ZIP disks but it will not read Amiga formatted disks like it did when evderything was in my Amiga.  Before the scsi controller in my Amiga stopped working the ZIP drive would read both Amiga formatted disked and  with CrossDos it would also read PC formatted disks.
It would be nice to get it to read my Amiga disks but I have acqquried another scsi controller for my Amiga so when it arrives I will get the A4k back together and get my data from the Zip disks.

[Thomas]

Yes, I already told you how to do it.

There are two ways and at least one of them should work.

First way:

- remove the Zip drive from the harddisks list.
- follow part one of http://home.t-online.de/home/thomas-rapp/uaescsi.html to identify the unit number of your zip drive.
- delete zip and zip.info from both devs/dosdrivers and storage/dosdrivers
- create a text file containing the following lines:

FileSystem = L:FastFileSystem
Device = uaescsi.device
Unit = 1
Flags  = 0
Surfaces = 2
SectorsPerTrack = 64
SectorSize  = 512
LowCyl  = 0
HighCyl = 1535
Reserved = 2
Interleave = 0
Buffers  = 128
BufMemType = 1
MaxTransfer = 0xfe00
Mask  = 0xfffffffc
BootPri  = -127
StackSize = 1024
Priority = 10
DosType  = 0x444F5303
Activate = 1
GlobVec  = -1

- change the unit number to whatever is needed.
- save the file as storage/dosdrivers/zip
- if you like create a project icon with default tool c:mount and save it as storage/dosdrivers/zip.info
- enter mount zip: in a shell window or double click the icon. Your zip disk should appear on the desktop.

If it does not work this way, you may try the second way:

- create a link for winuae on your Windows desktop.
- change the command line to read WinUAE.exe --disableharddrivesafetycheck
- start WinUAE using the new link
- load your config, go to the harddrives page, remove your Zip drive and click on add harddrive
- select your zip drive
- start emulation.

If you partitioned your zip disks using hdtoolbox the zip disk now should show up automatically. If it does not show up use the mount list above but use uaehf.device instead of uaescsi.device and the unit number is the place in the hdd list starting with 0 at the top.

Bye,
Thomas


P.S. I forgot: maybe for the first way to work you need the -noaspifiltering switch when starting WinUAE. Otherwise only CD-ROM drives might show up on uaescsi.device.

[Fabry]

Hi all,
all the stuff above works with SCSI devices, but what about internal IDE? Is there any chance to read a ZIP FFS-formatted (used on my 1200+squirrel+Zip) with the internal ZIP unit on my PC? The unit is mounted as Win_RMV, and works fine with PC formatted ZIP, but can't see FFS ones. Have i to find a PCI SCSI card and use my external SCSI unit or there is a shortcut?
Any suggestion welcome... :-?

[Thomas]

Install ASPI and enable the "Use ASPI SCSI layer" option, then UAEscsi.device should see the ZIP drive.

I think you need ASPI version 4.60 because later versions no longer support IDE drives, but I might be wrong.

Bye,
Thomas

[Fabry]

Install ASPI and enable the "Use ASPI SCSI layer" option, then UAEscsi.device should see the ZIP drive.

Yep, it works!
It's amazing to see my old hand drown ZIP icon popping up in UAE screen...
Thank You very much!!

 :-D

Fabry