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Offline Crom00

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2011, 05:43:35 PM »
It's probably something like this with AOS4 ported to it. Pretty Cool.
http://liliputing.com/2010/05/linkbook-9-inch-netbook-with-a-powerpc-processor.html
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 05:46:56 PM by Crom00 »
 

Offline itix

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2011, 05:52:45 PM »
Quote from: number6;664706
Link works here in the U.S.
It's quite a lengthy thread developing.
Patience, it'll still be there.

#6


Oh, it just didnt work on my MorphOS machine. I can access it now from my XP laptop.

I like it how they write it is NOT a used Mac :-)

Reading by specs it looks like good alternative to SAM systems. If I was going to buy OS4 device it would be this one.

It seems it doesn't have internal HD but it is not really needed for this kind of device.
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Offline spihunter

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2011, 06:07:36 PM »
It's probably something like the Limebook or LimePPC. Those have been around for a few years. At least they are finally aiming at a product that most people here can afford. That's a better range for a hobby OS.
 


Offline AmigaNG

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2011, 06:23:55 PM »
:madashell::angry::griping:

SOMETHING WORNG! were three pages in and their no trolls!

:laughing: Must be good news
I'm still more interested in the X1000 and I feel its shame they started work on this before finishing the X1000 and now some of the limelight will be gone off the X1000 but still this is Great News for OS4 and Amiga world!.
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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2011, 06:45:15 PM »
Quote from: Crom00;664711
It's probably something like this with AOS4 ported to it. Pretty Cool.
http://liliputing.com/2010/05/linkbook-9-inch-netbook-with-a-powerpc-processor.html
I hope not, that site doesn't tell me jack about the actual hardware beyond the RAM and SSD size, and apparently it's philosophically opposed to putting different operating systems on it >=(

Now, if this is really 800MHz, that's actually pretty promising (even better if it has AltiVec.) That's plenty enough for running Amiga software and capable of running a modern web browser functionally, assuming there's a good port. (Perhaps they can leverage TenFourFox or Camino's PPC optimization.) But I wish they'd quit farting around with releasing little nibbles of information and just tell us about the damn thing.

Quote from: AmigaNG;664725
SOMETHING WORNG! were three pages in and their no trolls!
Maybe that's because this is something people might actually buy ;)
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Offline Karlos

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2011, 06:56:58 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;664729
Now, if this is really 800MHz, that's actually pretty promising (even better if it has AltiVec.)

It's a netbook, not a notebook. That implies low power consumption and thus an SoC configuration. Much more likely to have onboard audio/video/network/whatever on the chip die than AltiVec.
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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2011, 07:00:56 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;664731
It's a netbook, not a notebook. That implies low power consumption and thus an SoC configuration. Much more likely to have onboard audio/video/network/whatever than AltiVec.
They're not mutually exclusive; even my Atom N270 netbook has SSE3. Not saying it will have AltiVec, but until we actually hear the specs I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Offline F1Lupo

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2011, 07:00:58 PM »
Quote from: AmigaNG;664725
:madashell::angry::griping:

SOMETHING WORNG! were three pages in and their no trolls!

:laughing: Must be good news


:laughing: na that would be a miracle! The 'usual suspects' just can't stay away from any AmigaOS4.x thread:razz:
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Offline Templario

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2011, 07:04:59 PM »
Good price, better than the X1000, excuseme, X2000 €
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Offline Karlos

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2011, 07:19:57 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;664732
They're not mutually exclusive; even my Atom N270 netbook has SSE3. Not saying it will have AltiVec, but until we actually hear the specs I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Seriously, I doubt it. The N270 is a full blown CPU, with all the die space used on processor-only components.

http://ark.intel.com/products/36331/Intel-Atom-Processor-N270-(512K-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB)

If it weren't single core and specifically targeting the low power envelope applications, it would be just as at home in a modest desktop system as it is in a netbook. Latest iterations are multi-core, 64-bit and include SSE3 (and even 4) support, because without it, they'd would be useless for the modern x86 object code it is intended to run. Developers stopped using the x87 floating point unit years ago.

PowerPC stopped being a desktop architecture a long time ago now and most embedded uses of it don't even require floating point, let alone vector units. However, basic floating point is a part of the Power specification that has been around since the start, so that will be included. AltiVec is an extension for multimedia/DSP and is only included in higher-end parts with a correspondingly higher cost.

I strongly doubt that a PPC based netbook intended to be affordable will be using Altivec enabled processors. It would be nice, sure, but if I were a gambling man, I'd bet it being a SoC, rather than an AltiVec compatible CPU + separate video/audio/io hardware.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 07:29:09 PM by Karlos »
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Offline DCAmiga

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2011, 07:27:30 PM »
This is great news indeed for OS4... some affordable HW for the masses finally. It may perhaps inspire some new OS4 development (SW & HW) and new group of OS4 users.
Future looks bright indeed :D
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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2011, 07:33:01 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;664739
PowerPC stopped being a desktop architecture a long time ago now and most embedded uses of it don't even require floating point, let alone vector units. However, basic floating point is a part of the Power specification that has been around since the start, so that will be included. AltiVec is an extension for multimedia/DSP and is only included in higher-end parts with a correspondingly higher cost.

I strongly doubt that a PPC based netbook intended to be affordable will be using Altivec enabled processors. It would be nice, sure, but if I were a gambling man, I'd bet it being a SoC, rather than an AltiVec compatible CPU + separate video/audio/io hardware.
Yeah, true. On the other hand, the whole "netbook" idea has been designed from the beginning for small-scale web browsing and video playback among other things, and that's something where SIMD extensions can make a significant difference; it'd be a pretty significant oversight to leave it off.

Again, I'm not going to make any bets on whether it will or won't, I just think it'd be nice if it did.
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Offline Karlos

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2011, 08:40:20 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;664742
Yeah, true. On the other hand, the whole "netbook" idea has been designed from the beginning for small-scale web browsing and video playback among other things, and that's something where SIMD extensions can make a significant difference; it'd be a pretty significant oversight to leave it off.

Again, I'm not going to make any bets on whether it will or won't, I just think it'd be nice if it did.


I think you are overstating the requirement for it versus the alternatives. Hardware accelerated video decoding achieves the same thing in a fraction of the power consumption (not to mention cost, if it allows you to pick a cheaper CPU core). If you were designing such a device within a power/performance budget, which would you pick? I'm pretty sure most systems developers would pick hardware decode over a beefier CPU that would use more power to achieve lower performance.

Having said that, without OS support, the latter doesn't help.
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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2011, 09:23:23 PM »
Also very true. Guess we'll just have to see.
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