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Title: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: djrikki on October 23, 2011, 05:42:45 AM
Hey,

Title says it all - I know I can hardly believe it myself!!

Steven Solie announced this at AmiWest this evening - price range estimated at between $300-$500 - subject to change.

:):):):):):):):):):):):)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Cammy on October 23, 2011, 05:55:24 AM
Finally an OS4 Amiga I can probably save up enough for! :)

It's been very interesting watching the AmiWest live feed. New USB cards for classic Amigas from Jens is great news too. :)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: djrikki on October 23, 2011, 05:55:39 AM
Hmm, was meant to be regular post, not a news item.  But ok.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: MobbyG on October 23, 2011, 06:12:06 AM
Cool, more we can talk about on Amiga Roundtable tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Pyromania on October 23, 2011, 06:16:40 AM
Quote from: MobbyG;664653
Cool, more we can talk about on Amiga Roundtable tomorrow!!


Why does your twitter say it does not run Amiga OS 4.x???
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 23, 2011, 06:45:04 AM
If this is actually what that description would imply (a reasonably capable small form-factor PPC laptop with well-documented hardware,) and it's really in that price range, I might actually be interested in getting one. Don't think I'd be running OS4 on it, but I'd still be all about having the hardware.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: amigadave on October 23, 2011, 06:46:41 AM
Quote from: djrikki;664649
Hey,

Title says it all - I know I can hardly believe it myself!!

Steven Solie announced this at AmiWest this evening - price range estimated at between $300-$500 - subject to change.

:):):):):):):):):):):):)



Actually, Steve said that it would not be available until the end of Q2 of 2012, not Q1, but still good news for AmigaOS4 users.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: actung_bab on October 23, 2011, 07:03:25 AM
Oh wow seriously this whould be so cool to use i chould sit in front the tv and watch my wifes tv programs and she be why you so happy watching the soaps hehe
and i take the news paper away and wola my amiga , mind you she probley want me
to install windows on it , as am in the dog box for selling her mac mini opps and pawning
the asus Epc lap top seriously if it chould be netbook size even better with wifi
I rekon this better news than the psp vita and am sony fan boy
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: actung_bab on October 23, 2011, 07:06:21 AM
u probley be able to run linux for sure on it that was okay on the E pc netbook we have
why not have dual boot
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: itix on October 23, 2011, 10:12:05 AM
Is it going to run AmigaOS natively or AmigaOS in emulation?

Because on #amigaworld

Quote
NomadOfNorad-pc: Was that revised though: "Live from AmiWest: Steve Solie announces that Hyperion will release a Netbook that will run #Amiga OS 4"
yeah, two munutes later they sent: AmiWest Correction: The Hyperion Netbook WIL NOT run #Amiga OS4. Will be capable of running E-UAE.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Puni/Void on October 23, 2011, 10:34:23 AM
According to Hyperionmp on Amigaworld.net:

- "@kas1e

The device already exists and will be sourced in a special configuration from an OEM.

Hardware development is therefore 100% completed.

The quoted price includes the AmigaOS 4.x license.

AmigaOS is already running on the device."

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34459&forum=33#633775

It's great news. I'm going to get myself one when its released. :)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: itix on October 23, 2011, 10:48:39 AM
@Puni/Void

If it is really so it will be interesting to see how it compares to MorphOS :-)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: XDelusion on October 23, 2011, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: djrikki;664649
price range estimated at between $300-$500 - subject to change.


I may be able to play with OS 4 some day after all, though something tells me the (if it releases) release date pricing will change to something more akin to $3000 - $5000. No OS included with the $3000 bundle, and you'll have to run Linux if you want to use the Wireless device.


Joking of course!
I really hope this comes to pass, be it for $600 if it needs be, so long as the CPU is at bare minimum 1Ghz, though 1.6 would be preferred. I was let down by the X1000 pricing, so this gives me hope once more, and if it fails...

...well I'll be taking MorphOS on the road with me soon too, so either way, I know I'm going to be satisfied! The MorphOS team always delivers!
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: yssing on October 23, 2011, 11:51:52 AM
this is really really great news.. Finally a new system I should be able to afford.. :)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: nicholas on October 23, 2011, 12:36:37 PM
I hope this comes to fruition add I will probably buy one for myself, but I fear this is just another announcement meant to stop some people getting a MorphOS Powerbook.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: swoslover on October 23, 2011, 01:07:13 PM
sounds too good to be true
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: VingtTrois on October 23, 2011, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: swoslover;664680
sounds too good to be true

...and seems to be the killer of the AmigaOneX1000!!!
At this price and without bad surprise, I'd be very interested.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Cammy on October 23, 2011, 02:04:25 PM
I'm guessing it will be around 400-600Mhz, which should still be enough for AmigaOS.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Karlos on October 23, 2011, 02:06:24 PM
Quote from: itix;664668
Is it going to run AmigaOS natively or AmigaOS in emulation?

Because on #amigaworld


Without going into specifics, to the best of my knowledge, it's a PPC machine.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Karlos on October 23, 2011, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: Cammy;664682
I'm guessing it will be around 400-600Mhz, which should still be enough for AmigaOS.


Well, OS 4.1 actually runs quite nicely on my 240MHz BlizzardPPC. The biggest bottlenecks are, aside from the total lack of L2 cache, the fact I'm using the original A1200 ports for everything (motherboard IDE, PCMCIA network) and slow 60ns RAM (compared to anything more recent). Of course, I'm also using an RTG card which helps enormously over AGA. So yes, it should be sufficient.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: MobbyG on October 23, 2011, 02:26:18 PM
Ignore the second tweet NomadofNorad posted. I missed a few keywords from Steve in my excitement to tweet about it!

I'm all giddy like a school girl!
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 23, 2011, 03:06:55 PM
Quote from: Karlos;664683
Without going into specifics, to the best of my knowledge, it's a PPC machine.
Hmm. I'd like to see the specifics, myself, at least as they stand at this point. If it is a PPC machine, that's pretty interesting - if it's not, it's just another low-end PC laptop.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: SamuraiCrow on October 23, 2011, 03:19:52 PM
If Steve Solie announced it, it wouldn't be an OS 3 machine.  It would have to be OS 4.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: itix on October 23, 2011, 03:19:55 PM
@MobbyG

Thank you for verification.

Quote from: nicholas;664678
I hope this comes to fruition add I will probably buy one for myself, but I fear this is just another announcement meant to stop some people getting a MorphOS Powerbook.


Well, the MorphBook is G4 power machine so they are in different leagues.

And after all, it is a free world so there is nothing wrong about following AROS and MorphOS foot steps (AROS has been mobile long time already).
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: number6 on October 23, 2011, 04:19:40 PM
Quote from: itix;664690
@MobbyG

Thank you for verification.



Well, the MorphBook is G4 power machine so they are in different leagues.

And after all, it is a free world so there is nothing wrong about following AROS and MorphOS foot steps (AROS has been mobile long time already).




The Friedens are writing about it:

here (http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4910&start=0)

#6
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: yakumo9275 on October 23, 2011, 04:31:36 PM
hmm "the hardware exists" makes me worry a bit. what small size ppc motherboards exist that would fit inside a netbook case that already exist and can just be sourced from an oem??...  besides efika, what else is there?
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: F1Lupo on October 23, 2011, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: Cammy;664651
Finally an OS4 Amiga I can probably save up enough for! :)

It's been very interesting watching the AmiWest live feed. New USB cards for classic Amigas from Jens is great news too. :)


nice surprise from the show:) now you can change your sig to read AROS for your PC and AmigaOS  or AspireOS for your netbook;)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: itix on October 23, 2011, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: number6;664697
The Friedens are writing about it:

here (http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4910&start=0)

#6


Their site is down. What it does say exactly?
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: number6 on October 23, 2011, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: itix;664703
Their site is down. What it does say exactly?


Link works here in the U.S.
It's quite a lengthy thread developing.
Patience, it'll still be there.

#6
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Matt_H on October 23, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
Ooo, is this true? I love tiny machines. I think 12" is pushing the "netbook" definition into "small notebook" territory, but that's just nitpicking.

The OS4 guys are finally speaking my language again :)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Crom00 on October 23, 2011, 05:43:35 PM
It's probably something like this with AOS4 ported to it. Pretty Cool.
http://liliputing.com/2010/05/linkbook-9-inch-netbook-with-a-powerpc-processor.html
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: itix on October 23, 2011, 05:52:45 PM
Quote from: number6;664706
Link works here in the U.S.
It's quite a lengthy thread developing.
Patience, it'll still be there.

#6


Oh, it just didnt work on my MorphOS machine. I can access it now from my XP laptop.

I like it how they write it is NOT a used Mac :-)

Reading by specs it looks like good alternative to SAM systems. If I was going to buy OS4 device it would be this one.

It seems it doesn't have internal HD but it is not really needed for this kind of device.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: spihunter on October 23, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
It's probably something like the Limebook or LimePPC. Those have been around for a few years. At least they are finally aiming at a product that most people here can afford. That's a better range for a hobby OS.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: djrikki on October 23, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Story on OSNews:

http://www.osnews.com/story/25251/AmigaOne_X1000_To_Ship_by_Year_s_End_Amiga_Netbook_Announced
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: AmigaNG on October 23, 2011, 06:23:55 PM
:madashell::angry::griping:

SOMETHING WORNG! were three pages in and their no trolls!

:laughing: Must be good news
I'm still more interested in the X1000 and I feel its shame they started work on this before finishing the X1000 and now some of the limelight will be gone off the X1000 but still this is Great News for OS4 and Amiga world!.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 23, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: Crom00;664711
It's probably something like this with AOS4 ported to it. Pretty Cool.
http://liliputing.com/2010/05/linkbook-9-inch-netbook-with-a-powerpc-processor.html
I hope not, that site doesn't tell me jack about the actual hardware beyond the RAM and SSD size, and apparently it's philosophically opposed to putting different operating systems on it >=(

Now, if this is really 800MHz, that's actually pretty promising (even better if it has AltiVec.) That's plenty enough for running Amiga software and capable of running a modern web browser functionally, assuming there's a good port. (Perhaps they can leverage TenFourFox or Camino's PPC optimization.) But I wish they'd quit farting around with releasing little nibbles of information and just tell us about the damn thing.

Quote from: AmigaNG;664725
SOMETHING WORNG! were three pages in and their no trolls!
Maybe that's because this is something people might actually buy ;)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Karlos on October 23, 2011, 06:56:58 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;664729
Now, if this is really 800MHz, that's actually pretty promising (even better if it has AltiVec.)

It's a netbook, not a notebook. That implies low power consumption and thus an SoC configuration. Much more likely to have onboard audio/video/network/whatever on the chip die than AltiVec.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 23, 2011, 07:00:56 PM
Quote from: Karlos;664731
It's a netbook, not a notebook. That implies low power consumption and thus an SoC configuration. Much more likely to have onboard audio/video/network/whatever than AltiVec.
They're not mutually exclusive; even my Atom N270 netbook has SSE3. Not saying it will have AltiVec, but until we actually hear the specs I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: F1Lupo on October 23, 2011, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: AmigaNG;664725
:madashell::angry::griping:

SOMETHING WORNG! were three pages in and their no trolls!

:laughing: Must be good news


:laughing: na that would be a miracle! The 'usual suspects' just can't stay away from any AmigaOS4.x thread:razz:
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Templario on October 23, 2011, 07:04:59 PM
Good price, better than the X1000, excuseme, X2000 €
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Karlos on October 23, 2011, 07:19:57 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;664732
They're not mutually exclusive; even my Atom N270 netbook has SSE3. Not saying it will have AltiVec, but until we actually hear the specs I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Seriously, I doubt it. The N270 is a full blown CPU, with all the die space used on processor-only components.

http://ark.intel.com/products/36331/Intel-Atom-Processor-N270-(512K-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB)

If it weren't single core and specifically targeting the low power envelope applications, it would be just as at home in a modest desktop system as it is in a netbook. Latest iterations are multi-core, 64-bit and include SSE3 (and even 4) support, because without it, they'd would be useless for the modern x86 object code it is intended to run. Developers stopped using the x87 floating point unit years ago.

PowerPC stopped being a desktop architecture a long time ago now and most embedded uses of it don't even require floating point, let alone vector units. However, basic floating point is a part of the Power specification that has been around since the start, so that will be included. AltiVec is an extension for multimedia/DSP and is only included in higher-end parts with a correspondingly higher cost.

I strongly doubt that a PPC based netbook intended to be affordable will be using Altivec enabled processors. It would be nice, sure, but if I were a gambling man, I'd bet it being a SoC, rather than an AltiVec compatible CPU + separate video/audio/io hardware.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: DCAmiga on October 23, 2011, 07:27:30 PM
This is great news indeed for OS4... some affordable HW for the masses finally. It may perhaps inspire some new OS4 development (SW & HW) and new group of OS4 users.
Future looks bright indeed :D
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 23, 2011, 07:33:01 PM
Quote from: Karlos;664739
PowerPC stopped being a desktop architecture a long time ago now and most embedded uses of it don't even require floating point, let alone vector units. However, basic floating point is a part of the Power specification that has been around since the start, so that will be included. AltiVec is an extension for multimedia/DSP and is only included in higher-end parts with a correspondingly higher cost.

I strongly doubt that a PPC based netbook intended to be affordable will be using Altivec enabled processors. It would be nice, sure, but if I were a gambling man, I'd bet it being a SoC, rather than an AltiVec compatible CPU + separate video/audio/io hardware.
Yeah, true. On the other hand, the whole "netbook" idea has been designed from the beginning for small-scale web browsing and video playback among other things, and that's something where SIMD extensions can make a significant difference; it'd be a pretty significant oversight to leave it off.

Again, I'm not going to make any bets on whether it will or won't, I just think it'd be nice if it did.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Karlos on October 23, 2011, 08:40:20 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;664742
Yeah, true. On the other hand, the whole "netbook" idea has been designed from the beginning for small-scale web browsing and video playback among other things, and that's something where SIMD extensions can make a significant difference; it'd be a pretty significant oversight to leave it off.

Again, I'm not going to make any bets on whether it will or won't, I just think it'd be nice if it did.


I think you are overstating the requirement for it versus the alternatives. Hardware accelerated video decoding achieves the same thing in a fraction of the power consumption (not to mention cost, if it allows you to pick a cheaper CPU core). If you were designing such a device within a power/performance budget, which would you pick? I'm pretty sure most systems developers would pick hardware decode over a beefier CPU that would use more power to achieve lower performance.

Having said that, without OS support, the latter doesn't help.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 23, 2011, 09:23:23 PM
Also very true. Guess we'll just have to see.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: _ThEcRoW on October 23, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
But the strong point of netbooks are webbrowsing and multimedia, but i can't see os4 webbrowsing an advantage over x86 netbooks...
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: cicero790 on October 23, 2011, 09:46:54 PM
This is very exciting. Hope to finally get an AmigaOS4 system, and a great reason for getting better in coding. Purpose and reason. Lovely.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: ognix on October 23, 2011, 09:49:47 PM
Quote from: Cammy;664651
[...] New USB cards for classic Amigas from Jens is great news too. :)

Really!?!
Where can I/we read some details? (interface, specs, stack used, price).
If any...

BY!

P.S. Sorry for going off topic!  :?
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: gunni on October 23, 2011, 10:02:28 PM
announcement (around the 30 minute mark) http://vimeo.com/30985798
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: utri007 on October 23, 2011, 10:28:03 PM
Firefox is good news with this, it would only require fully working and fast flash plugin

With that price it doesn't need to have any advantage over x86/window/LINUX netbooks,  but it needs to be working solution.

Well what would be price of mobo? This proves that is possible to manufacture even more economic desktop solution and I want it! I really doesn't care mhzs, it just must be faster than my current 060 amiga
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Crom00 on October 23, 2011, 10:35:39 PM
It's about time. Looking foward to this.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Karlos on October 23, 2011, 10:36:25 PM
Quote from: _ThEcRoW;664756
But the strong point of netbooks are webbrowsing and multimedia, but i can't see os4 webbrowsing an advantage over x86 netbooks...


The advantage is that it runs AmigaOS4, which if you are an enthusiast of the latter but can't afford or justify the price of a higher spec system, is all the advantage you need.

People don't buy AmigaOS4 or MorphOS compatible hardware to be their main media centres or web clients, even if on higher end PPCs they don't completely suck at it. And if they do, they must be a bit mad, because you can put together a cheap as chips PC that will toast any G4 class system for the task.

Nope, people buy this stuff because it allows them to indulge their amiga habit. Anything that allows them to do it for less is good news as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: djrikki on October 23, 2011, 10:39:59 PM
Who needs Flash anymore?  Not me, I won't miss flash adverts and relatively crap free flash games that are surrounded by flash adverts all over the page.  HTML5 will make a lot of inroads over the next few years.  Flash is slow on Macs (ok its got better over the years), Flash isn't support on iPad, Flash quickly drains laptop battery life, Flash is proprietary (sp) software, Flash isn't available on anything but PCs and Macs, Flash is dying a slow death.  HTML5 is the rising through the ashes.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 23, 2011, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: utri007;664768
Firefox is good news with this, it would only require fully working and fast flash plugin
I wouldn't get your hopes up on that, Adobe doesn't really give a damn about platforms that aren't the mainest of the mainstream (look at how long smartphones and tablets had to be a big thing before there was an ARM Flash port.) If Lightspark gets its act together it might be worth a port, but don't count on getting YouTube any time soon.

Quote
With that price it doesn't need to have any advantage over x86/window/LINUX netbooks,  but it needs to be working solution.
That's exactly why this is way, way better news than the X1000. At this price it's an obvious moderate hobby purchase, not a big-bucks trophy item for die-hards, and that's apt to appeal to a lot more than just the few most dedicated OS4 die-hards. It's still not quite as cost-effective as a refurbished PowerBook, but then it's new hardware, not used, so what the hey.

Quote from: djrikki;664774
Who needs Flash anymore? Not me, I won't miss flash adverts and relatively crap free flash games that are surrounded by flash adverts all over the page. HTML5 will make a lot of inroads over the next few years. Flash is slow on Macs (ok its got better over the years), Flash isn't support on iPad, Flash quickly drains laptop battery life, Flash is proprietary (sp) software, Flash isn't available on anything but PCs and Macs, Flash is dying a slow death. HTML5 is the rising through the ashes.
I know that it's kind of a chicken-and-egg problem (Flash won't die while HTML5 is still only starting to gain acceptance, HTML5 won't gain real acceptance while Flash lives,) but there's still a lot of sites that are Flash-dependent, and some of them are even worthwhile. The Escapist, for example, only offers HTML5 video to subscribers, and while I loves me some Zero Punctuation, I'm sure as hell not going to shell out just to be able to watch it on platforms that don't support Flash.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: aggro_mix on October 23, 2011, 11:44:13 PM
A must buy!! Finally an affordable way into the next generation!
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: orb85750 on October 23, 2011, 11:45:17 PM
Clearly the beginning of the end for Microsoft and Apple.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: utri007 on October 23, 2011, 11:47:32 PM
This must be targeted to main stream? At least partially?

They needed to manufacture quite many of them, to get price that low? So it woun't be possible to sell them all to Amiga scene users.

It could be small succeed to Hyperion and give them needed income to get OS developement more speedy
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 23, 2011, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: utri007;664781
This must be targeted to main stream? At least partially?

They needed to manufacture quite many of them, to get price that low? So it woun't be possible to sell them all to Amiga scene users.
If the hardware already exists, then it's likely simply a packaging of OS4 with a branded version of something that's already in mass production; I wouldn't worry about availability.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: A1260 on October 24, 2011, 12:03:12 AM
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Famiga.ikirsector.it%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D39%26t%3D14071%26start%3D0

browsing the web with 400mhz and 256mb ram, good luck.......
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: utri007 on October 24, 2011, 12:05:11 AM
It is not already in mass production, we would know that already.

But you are at least partially right, hardaware already exist, but I belive it is OS4 pruduct only.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Rogue said so in Amigaworld.net? I mean it is manufactured just for A OS4? I don't belive that is planned to be OS4 product at least originally? Maybe LimePPC laptop with new brand?
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: utri007 on October 24, 2011, 12:12:24 AM
That is 8.9" screen, at least prototype is 12" screen and 512mb ram

http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?start=20&topic_id=4910&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0

And Rogue also said that target date is midle of 2012, not 1Q of 2012?
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 24, 2011, 12:15:50 AM
Quote from: A1260;664783
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Famiga.ikirsector.it%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D39%26t%3D14071%26start%3D0

browsing the web with 400mhz and 256mb ram, good luck.......
I don't think it's that; they said that it would be in the 600-800 MHz range, and while they're being annoyingly coy with putting a name to this, it would be damned foolhardy to claim 50-100% faster performance than they actually plan to deliver.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Karlos on October 24, 2011, 12:20:03 AM
Quote from: commodorejohn;664786
I don't think it's that; they said that it would be in the 600-800 MHz range


Who are "they" and where did they say this?
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 24, 2011, 12:36:23 AM
Quote from: Karlos;664787
Who are "they" and where did they say this?
Oh, you're right, I didn't read the thread carefully enough. Never mind...
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Karlos on October 24, 2011, 01:04:41 AM
Quote from: commodorejohn;664788
Oh, you're right, I didn't read the thread carefully enough. Never mind...


I thought I better point it out as it doesn't do it any good to be hyped up on a misunderstanding only to be criticised for not living up to them once the specs are known for sure.

I'm guessing it's around the 400MHz mark. Would be nice it if was higher, of course, but even at 400 it should be easily faster than my BlizzPPC (note, right now, anything is faster than my BlizzPPC as it isn't working :-/)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: ajlwalker on October 24, 2011, 01:21:34 AM
Well this is fantastic news.

Personally I hope they can keep the cost as near to $300 as possible, however, if $500 means 800mhz then I'd be happy to pay that.

For those worrying that this will cannabilise X1000 sales, I wouldn't be too worried.  If anything I think it gives more confidence to X1000 buyers, as this can only lead to an expansion in the userbase for OS4, which is good for all users.

I've been saying for a long time that I want to get an OS4 capable machine, but my personal circumstances (no permanent home of my own) make this tricky.  However, a portable netbook means I can jump on board as soon as this is released and get my X1000 a bit later.

In fact I'll probably pick up a couple of these netbooks and give one to my brother.  He hasn't touched Amiga in years, and so would also be a returner.

Well done to all involved and best of luck and success.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: XDelusion on October 24, 2011, 01:22:40 AM
I'm going to be so very broke next year, that's all I know.

This African laptop looks pretty snazy, though I didn't see any info about speed.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: EDanaII on October 24, 2011, 02:09:34 AM
All right, at the risk of being the first troll in this thread... is anyone else concerned about the fact that this still keeps AmigaOS stuck on PPC processors?

Don't get me wrong, good news, glad to hear it, but as far as I know, PPC still has an expensive and possibly limited future.

I wish 'em well, and am glad they finally got the hint about affordable hardware, just wondering about the long term implications.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 24, 2011, 02:28:58 AM
There is that, but seeing as that's apparently Hyperion's long-term direction and ain't nobody changing it, this is at least much, much better news than the X1000.

(I mean, if you're really adamant about not being stuck on PPC, there's always AROS.)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: yakumo9275 on October 24, 2011, 02:38:08 AM
if its like the efika, 400mhz e300 core, trying to run 68k classic stuff will be a struggle.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: SamuraiCrow on October 24, 2011, 06:00:34 AM
Quote from: yakumo9275;664803
if its like the efika, 400mhz e300 core, trying to run 68k classic stuff will be a struggle.


They are depending on a bounty accepted by the author of the Petunia JIT on OS 4 to make a similar JIT for EUAE on PPC.  That could make all the difference.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: amigakid on October 24, 2011, 06:10:32 AM
Now this I can afford.  Would love to have a Amiga on a netbook no less.  Be really nice, lets hope that it is running natively and under WinUAE.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: takemehomegrandma on October 24, 2011, 08:43:53 AM
Quote from: Cammy;664682
I'm guessing it will be around 400-600Mhz, which should still be enough for AmigaOS.


It's probably based on this (http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC5121e), meaning it will be quite similar to your Efika (i.e. 400MHz). Genesi and THTF (a Chinese OEM development company) initiated a netbook project together some years ago based on this CPU (before their relationship crashed, and before it turned out that the CPU lacked HW cache coherency, and Genesi went ARM instead), LimePC, AFAIK this is still being sold in China and this is is AFAIK the only PPC based netbook ever built. You might also have seen it (or rather the "nettop" variant based on the same HW) resold as "Cherrypal" as well. It's a cheap, low watt CPU, and I'm not aware of any other CPU really suitable for netbook design. And "suitable" is a matter of definition, since besides lacking cache coherency, it also lacks several important features users would expect from a netbook, like HW accelerators for multimedia and video decoding/encoding...
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: takemehomegrandma on October 24, 2011, 08:52:45 AM
Quote from: VingtTrois;664681
...and seems to be the killer of the AmigaOneX1000!!!


Indeed, this is what people wanting to run OS4 will buy instead. You could get 10 (ten!) of these for the price of one X1000! And it's mobile.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: takemehomegrandma on October 24, 2011, 08:55:51 AM
Quote from: djrikki;664774
Who needs Flash anymore?  Not me, I won't miss flash adverts


Hehe, you think it's *flash* that is evil and bring you ads, and not website owners in need of money? You think you won't see ads in HTML5? :lol:
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Bezzen on October 24, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
Great news! Will most probably get me back to the Amiga scene as I've been wanting to try out OS4 but haven't really been willing/able to shell out with large amounts of cash for the hardware. :)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Khephren on October 24, 2011, 01:15:13 PM
Quote from: EDanaII;664798
All right, at the risk of being the first troll in this thread... is anyone else concerned about the fact that this still keeps AmigaOS stuck on PPC processors?

Don't get me wrong, good news, glad to hear it, but as far as I know, PPC still has an expensive and possibly limited future.

I wish 'em well, and am glad they finally got the hint about affordable hardware, just wondering about the long term implications.


I know what you mean, I was hoping for a switch to ARM, but do they have the man power to do that kind of switch? I'm not even sure Amiga is a full time venture at Hyperion, they'd probably have other work to keep money coming in.

That said, a cute affordable Amiga laptop/netbook gets my vote. If it can run legacy applications at a decent rate.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Pete_Noir on October 24, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
Holy crap! Didn't expect this. 12" is too small for me I think, but this could be the start of something good.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: jorkany on October 24, 2011, 01:19:46 PM
Quote from: nicholas;664678
I hope this comes to fruition add I will probably buy one for myself, but I fear this is just another announcement meant to stop some people getting a MorphOS Powerbook.


Also makes good cover for the fact that "X" doesn't seem to work. No working SMP, no working Xena, no working Xorro.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: A1260 on October 24, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: nicholas;664678
I fear this is just another announcement meant to stop some people getting a MorphOS Powerbook.


if morphos powerbook get stopped by a 400mhz/256mb ram notebook, then maybe morphos powerbook was not meant to be?.. just a thought.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: A1260 on October 24, 2011, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: EDanaII;664798
All right, at the risk of being the first troll in this thread... is anyone else concerned about the fact that this still keeps AmigaOS stuck on PPC processors?

Don't get me wrong, good news, glad to hear it, but as far as I know, PPC still has an expensive and possibly limited future.

I wish 'em well, and am glad they finally got the hint about affordable hardware, just wondering about the long term implications.


you can start worry about 'stuck on ppc' when amigaos5.1 is out... now lets get the drivers, a proper web browser finished and some hw most of us can afford. maybe we also get more programmers for amigaos4.x , that we desperately need.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: yakumo9275 on October 24, 2011, 04:42:20 PM
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;664821
You might also have seen it (or rather the "nettop" variant based on the same HW) resold as "Cherrypal"


i hope not, that SOC/cpu was so bugged... I remember reading all the problems some time back on powerdeveloper.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Duce on October 24, 2011, 05:04:11 PM
I widely detest netbooks - I find them to be an underpowered scourge even running Linux, lol.  I hope this one is better.

I am intrigued at the thought of this, if it is priced right and performs adequately it will get one of the Amiga operating system variants into more peoples hands, and the OS4 market has been prohibitively expensive since day one.

End of the day people:  red, blue, green, pink, brown, teal, etc - whatever color "camp" you are part of, seeing any of these Amiga OS's in the hands of people unfamiliar with them at a good price point, we all win as Amigans.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Darrin on October 24, 2011, 09:40:15 PM
Netbooks are for feeble people who are too weak to carry a "real" laptop.  ;)

I don't see the attraction of an underpowered machine with a screen you need to squint at.  I'll stick to the AmigaOne X1000/500 until they bring out a proper laptop with an energy guzzling CPU that drains the battery in less than 2 hours, a minimum 17" display and a full keyboard (just like my PC laptop).
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Darrin on October 24, 2011, 09:40:51 PM
Quote from: Duce;664884
I widely detest netbooks - I find them to be an underpowered scourge even running Linux, lol.  I hope this one is better.


Glad I'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 24, 2011, 10:14:43 PM
Quote from: Darrin;664947
Netbooks are for feeble people who are too weak to carry a "real" laptop.  ;)

I don't see the attraction of an underpowered machine with a screen you need to squint at.  I'll stick to the AmigaOne X1000/500 until they bring out a proper laptop with an energy guzzling CPU that drains the battery in less than 2 hours, a minimum 17" display and a full keyboard (just like my PC laptop).
For me I'd like a machine somewhere in the middle. The first "netbooks" (the Eee 700 series, for example) were indeed underpowered as hell and too tiny to really use for a lot of us. On the other hand, a 17"+ mega-laptop is just too damn big and heavy for my tastes (even 15" is pushing it,) and I do want 4+ hours of battery life out of the thing, or I might as well just live with a desktop.

My ideal machine would be something with a 12" screen (4:3, dammit, none of this widescreen crap,) a real hard drive, 1.6-2GHz on a CPU that can make decent use of those clock cycles, and 4-8 hours of battery life; something that I can lounge on the couch or in bed with for as long as I please and have to worry about neither a collapsed lung from the weight or a strained eye from a tiny screen.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: desiv on October 24, 2011, 10:31:35 PM
I always find the "underpowered" statement curious...

It all depends what you want to do with it....  If it has enough power to do what you want, then it's not underpowered...  :-)

I have a tablet I use to watch videos, read books, and check some websites/e-mail...
It's 800Mhz with a wimpy 3D implementation.  Some games play badly or not at all...
But it's not underpowered, because I didn't intend to use it for those things..

Now, my gut feeling (which is terribly biased and not fair, but too bad :-), is that Amiga is 68k, and I haven't been interested in PPC...

But I have to admit, the netbook and possible price point is at least making me think about my definitions a bit...  ;-)

desiv
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Darrin on October 24, 2011, 10:39:25 PM
@ CommodoreJohn & Desiv:

Fair points.  It all boils down to how you want to use your laptop/netbook/notebook/etc.

For me, I use my laptop as a desktop replacement while I'm away on business so I want a nice, big display and lots of pretty graphics when I'm playing games.  

Plus I need lots of storage space for my porn.  :D
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on October 24, 2011, 10:51:07 PM
Well, there's always that ;)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Argo on October 25, 2011, 01:18:01 AM
I like this. 2nd quarter means 4.0 for my 40.  I'll be looking forward to the actual release specs.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: amoskodare on October 25, 2011, 01:40:09 AM
Excellent! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: billt on October 25, 2011, 02:14:47 AM
Quote from: Darrin;664947
I don't see the attraction of an underpowered machine with a screen you need to squint at.  I'll stick to the AmigaOne X1000/500 until they bring out a proper laptop with an energy guzzling CPU that drains the battery in less than 2 hours, a minimum 17" display and a full keyboard (just like my PC laptop).


Nope. 17inch is too big. The correct answer is 15inch. Which do have full numberic keypad keyboards now. That's what I want. But in the interest of getting anything OS4 into a portable and thus usable at all form, I will absolutely buy the netbook, even though I agree with your other comments about squinty eyes and low performance. For me, being able to use AmigaOS at all is trumping my desire for performance when doing it. If they come out with a high-end laptop as well, well I'll just have to buy one of those too. (Yea, I basically want a portable workstation that can run on battery for a few hours)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: persia on October 25, 2011, 04:02:44 AM
The great thing about OS 4 machines is that they aren't likely to be anyone's main machine, so a little skimping on keyboard/screen is acceptable.  I'd rather have cheap now and go more expensive IF some worthwhile applications come out to justify the additional expense.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: bbond007 on October 25, 2011, 04:35:26 AM
Quote from: Darrin;664947
Netbooks are for feeble people who are too weak to carry a "real" laptop.  ;)

I don't see the attraction of an underpowered machine with a screen you need to squint at.  I'll stick to the AmigaOne X1000/500 until they bring out a proper laptop with an energy guzzling CPU that drains the battery in less than 2 hours, a minimum 17" display and a full keyboard (just like my PC laptop).


I like my netbook. Most of the time I take it places where I have access to a regular monitor, keyboard, etc...  so I use it as more like a nettop or whatever. I rarely use the screen & keyboard as that is tedious, but when I do, its handy.

It has a dual core 1.6ghz atom with hyper-threading for 4 hardware threads and a Nvidia ION2 chipset 2GB ram running Windows7 Ultimate. Can it play the latest 3D games? no.. but it can run Eclipse and the android toolchain and about everything else I throw at it including BluRay movies with an external BR drive. Does it run the android emulator well, no, but I have yet to see anything that does.

My other choice is a 18.4" notebook that weighs in at about 14lbs with power brick and has pretty dismal battery life. I guarantee, feeble or not you'll have a sore shoulder if you hall that thing around. It is my desktop replacement. It is nice if you are checking into a hotel for a week or longer.

I think an amiga netbook is the first good idea these people have had. Something affordable and fun. I hope it allows for an external monitor, VGA at least. I'll buy one.


_nate
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: VingtTrois on October 25, 2011, 11:30:05 AM
This information is not common in the French press!!!

[size=+2]Amiga laptop on sale soon[/size] (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.presence-pc.com%2Factualite%2Famiga-portable-45420%2F)[/url]
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: jorkany on October 25, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
Quote from: klx300r;664733
:laughing: na that would be a miracle! The 'usual suspects' just can't stay away from any AmigaOS4.x thread:razz:


Must....resist....troll bait!
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Matteus on November 12, 2011, 02:43:50 AM
Quote from: amoskodare;664997
Excellent! :) :) :)

Det var ett väldigt uttömmande och välformulerat inlägg till denna debatt. :roflmao: :laughing:

Netbooks underpowered? Hmm the ASUS EEE1215b AMD E450 is not really that underpowered. But it's no desktop replacement, that's for sure. But you can play games on a laptop/book with a A4,6,8 series APU. Just wait for the next gen that's called Trinity. :)

12" is fine, 10,11 is a bit small and anything over 14 too big for a small lappy, IMO. :bitch:
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Master Chief on January 18, 2012, 08:01:02 PM
I'm buying one. 400/800mhz for $300/$500 is good enough for me. As for it being slow, I really don't think so because why would hyperion even release it if it couldn't run timberwolf, play some movies, and maybe even some games.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on January 18, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
Uh, do we actually know that those are the specs, yet?

I will say, though, that I don't think a 400MHz machine is as underpowered as most people think. I've just started getting a 500MHz PowerBook G3 whipped into shape, and even running OSX on 512MB RAM, it can handle just about anything short of Flash/HD video. If this turns out to be a G4 derivative (especially at 800MHz,) it should actually be pretty capable.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Master Chief on January 18, 2012, 08:37:09 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;676456
Uh, do we actually know that those are the specs, yet?

I will say, though, that I don't think a 400MHz machine is as underpowered as most people think. I've just started getting a 500MHz PowerBook G3 whipped into shape, and even running OSX on 512MB RAM, it can handle just about anything short of Flash/HD video. If this turns out to be a G4 derivative (especially at 800MHz,) it should actually be pretty capable.

 
Yes I know. I have a 667mhz mac Powerbook G4 and it works really well, but I was just saying that if those specs are close to the final specs of it then it should do just fine.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Pyromania on February 26, 2012, 02:04:08 AM
When is the AmigaOS 4.x netbook coming out????
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: persia on February 26, 2012, 07:18:45 AM
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/11/7/0aa7c964-6043-45f9-8f29-05d72552da71.jpg)

Quote from: Pyromania;681569
When is the AmigaOS 4.x netbook coming out????
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on February 26, 2012, 07:40:06 AM
Certainly is getting on through Q1/2012...
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Methuselas on February 26, 2012, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: Darrin;664958
@ CommodoreJohn & Desiv:
Plus I need lots of storage space for my porn.  :D


+1
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Nlandas on March 30, 2012, 04:39:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=526MH9bHHdU

"At AmiWest 2011, Hyperion announced a new AmigaOS4 Netbook, priced at just $300 to $500 designed to be a entry level device for fans or people interested in OS4 at the very least Timberwolf (firefox port) should be usable on the device.

Features (all subject to change)
12 inch 1024 X 768 Screen
e300 PPC CPU, Rumored to be 400Mhz (could be up to 800Mhz)
256mb Ram (maybe 512mb or as an option)
PowerVR Graphics Chip
USB, Ethernet, WiFi
Video Out (maybe)
SSD (4Gb to 16Gb)
$300 to $500
OS4 already runs on the device.

Due: 2012 (maybe 1Q but dont hold your breath)
Great news for the Amiga community and OS4."
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Argo on March 30, 2012, 05:09:07 AM
I, too, am eagerly awaiting the arrival of this in the next few months, my friend.

:bump:
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: persia on March 30, 2012, 01:37:32 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zbKfZUbJxMk/SxVFzg-B4TI/AAAAAAAAAkY/tzoKvYq3Ng4/s1600/wishful-thinking-no-matter-how-bad-aint-gonna-happen-demotivational-poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Nlandas on March 30, 2012, 10:35:44 PM
Persia, You're just not wishing hard enough or we'd be to the chewy center by now.

(http://images.quickblogcast.com/28524-27069/crunchy.gif)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: AmigaFanJose on March 31, 2012, 02:14:16 PM
I am looking forward to its release. Granted that it wont be my day to day machine, but it will be useful for when I have to travel. Lets hope that it gets released in the second quarter and maintains that price point.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: gertsy on March 31, 2012, 03:33:41 PM
Quote from: AmigaFanJose;686229
I am looking forward to its release. Granted that it wont be my day to day machine, but it will be useful for when I have to travel. Lets hope that it gets released in the second quarter and maintains that price point.


Yeah highly unlikely to be my day to day machine either.

Whoops due date just slipped by.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: persia on April 01, 2012, 01:07:52 AM
(http://cdn-static.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/gamesgear/vapourware/vapourware-crave-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: Digiman on April 20, 2012, 04:59:57 PM
Interesting read, we'll see what happens....they have 9 weeks left.

For diehard "classic is the only Amiga" camp the price point is low enough to take a gamble just to try OS4. If you don't like it sell it on I guess.

Buying used Powerbooks from nobs on scumbay is opening the door to all manner of madnesses. You get the decade old crud, pay for MOS and the machine dies two weeks later then what?

AROS + new x86 netbook is the only comparable setup really.
Title: Re: Hyperion announce 12" Netbook running AmigaOS - due end of Q1/2012
Post by: commodorejohn on April 20, 2012, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: Digiman;689849
Buying used Powerbooks from nobs on scumbay is opening the door to all manner of madnesses. You get the decade old crud, pay for MOS and the machine dies two weeks later then what?
Actually, the New World PPC Macs are some of the best-built computers I've encountered. I've owned close to a dozen of them and only ever had one die, and that I'm pretty sure was due to accidental static discharge when I upgraded the RAM.

Not that I'd be opposed to picking up a modern PPC laptop to experiment with, if they do achieve a better price point than other OS4 gear, but I'd still put a G3/G4 PowerBook up against a Chinese netbook any day, when it comes to sturdiness.