What would be your move now that you know the price of the X1000?

[Si P]

£1700 for a system that runs outdated hardware?
What exactly is the strategy for these systems? What are they supposed to do? Who do they expect to buy them?
As much as I'd like to have something with the Amiga name and OS again, I can't help but feel that dumping that amount on a system who's future or support is extremely shaky at the best of times is a silly idea.
Think Apple's made it quite clear that the only way to make a dent in the PC market is to make a machine that's shiny, and even then you need a hell of a lot of other shiny products to bolster company funds.

Consumer wise, there is one strength Amiga/AmigaOS can play to and that's it's almost instant on, even from cold. That and the OS itself can be quite tiny, which would be a blessing for smartphones. You can't help but feel the owners of the rights to AmigaOS missed a trick there.

Sorry if I'm wide of the mark. I don't keep up much with the goings on with Amiga these days. Plus a lot up there ^^^ is rambling. :lol:

[krashan]

I have been using MorphOS since 2004 and will continue. X1000 price is completely irrelevant, because even if the hardware was worth its price, the software running on it is lagging behind.

[gertsy]

Waiting.........

Maybe they'll come down....

[jorkany]

£1700 for a system that runs outdated hardware?
What exactly is the strategy for these systems? What are they supposed to do?

They're supposed to be like the original Amiga was, with custom hardware in this case represented by the presence of an XMOS chip and a deliberately b0rked PCI-e bus. The multicore processor I guess was intended to stand in for the preemptive multitasking ability of the original Amiga. Only problem is, none of that is used on the X1000. The strategy failed, so now it's just a somewhat faster board to run OS4.

Who do they expect to buy them?

It's laid out in the original copy from the A-eon website: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPOZfxNzg8

From the transcription:
"we're aiming at the high-end first, with a powerful desktop computer aimed at the professional and serious hobbyist markets"

In a later version of the website, but prior to the one now, regarding the XMOS chip: "Scientific users take note!"

The strategy would have made more sense if it wasn't a flop.

[560SL]

Hmm... yes, I think I'm going to throw my 2000€ expanded A4000T out the window and join the group of 5 X1000 owners instead. Makes sense. Not.

[motrucker]

My old Amiga models still do what I want/need. When I need to render something faster, winAUE fills the bill.

[Methuselas]

I'll get one if DoomMaster buys me one. I'd rather use that money to build a new I7 box for rendering in Maya. Maybe I'll buy a powerbook for MorphOS or that Netbook for OS4, when it arrives.

[billt]

Since we know the X1000 is over US$2600, are you still planning to buy it or look for another solution such as...

I wasn't planning to buy a desktop/tower, so my plan continues to be to NOT buy the X1000. Put a similar performance/features OS4 kit into a proper laptop then I'll be trying very hard to buy it.

[billt]

deliberately b0rked PCI-e bus.

Huh?

[actung_bab]

For me its got to be amiga x 1000 for one i want support  the man behind it
and i like the machine design the sam boards are good too but just my choice
and as soon as i can i will be doing so

[jorkany]

Huh?

Sorry, I meant PCI-e *slot*, aka Xorro. You can't put a real PCI-e card into it and have it work.

[Crumb]

I'll use my MorphOS machines and my classics.

[billt]

Sorry, I meant PCI-e *slot*, aka Xorro. You can't put a real PCI-e card into it and have it work.

I was under the impression that the Xorro slot was behind and in-line with a x1 PCI-Express slot, so you can ignore Xorro and plug in a standard x1 PCI-Express card. There's nothing b0rked about it being a PCI-Express slot.

[Vanilla]

Sorry, I meant PCI-e *slot*, aka Xorro. You can't put a real PCI-e card into it and have it work.

You couldn't plug an ISA card into a Zorro slot on a real Amiga and expect it to work either so what's your point? ;-)

The only borked thing I see is that there is only one of them. There should be four. :-)

[Vanilla]

There are PowerPC emulators out there. I believe QEMU emulates the full G4 instruction set (can't recall if it supports G5 or not,) but it doesn't emulate any OS4 custom hardware

What OS4 custom hardware? Taking my A1 as an example, apart from the CPU, nothing much else I can see is custom. It's all made out of standard PC parts! I don't see the problem here. UBoot is downloadable and ACiube even offer the source on their server!

I'm surprised no one has made an A1 emulator yet. Compared to the complex original Amiga, which has been emulated for years, an A1 is easy! You got no custom chips to think about. Either those coders are lazy, or they think it's too hard and don't bother. Hey, my A1 can emulate a Mac in Linux, so there's no reason why a PC couldn't emulate an A1.

[wawrzon]

i want support  the man behind it

looks like the man desperately needs your support, since he was able to pull the funds for such an effort all by himself. i would also sponsor the banks furtherly paying them all money i can earn, and supply the middle west and norway with free oil.