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Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« on: October 12, 2011, 03:39:24 AM »
I don't know what is causing this error. I know this program used to work for me!

I tried downloading a new copy from Aminet. Same result...

I ran Snoopdos (cuz its the shizzle) and the error occurs after loading ATCTrader which is is not really useful info - I know, just listing what I tried.

ACTrader
Program failed (error #8000004).
Wait for disk activity to finish.

I have a 1200 with 030 typhoon 64MB, FastATA MK IV, PCMCIA wifi, MiamiDX...

Any ideas? I have no clue.

thanks

-nate
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 07:35:53 PM »
Guru 8000 0004 typically has something to do with memory addressing.  I'd try re-seating all of your boards/components, and re-seating your ram.  In fact, you may just have bad ram...

You could also try removing one component at a time and trying to re-create the error.  If suddenly it doesn't guru on you, you know what piece of hardware was upsetting your Amiga.  :)
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 07:49:35 PM »
Sorry for the off-topic question, but what does this software actually do?

I can't find it on aminet.
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 08:27:22 PM »
Quote from: ajlwalker;663343
Sorry for the off-topic question, but what does this software actually do?


It's a FTP program.

Quote from: ajlwalker;663343

I can't find it on aminet.


http://aminet.net/search?query=AmiTradeCenter


@bbond007
Yea, it could be software or hardware. That's a very generic guru on the Amiga. You might try deleting any settings files and (re)installing the latest MUI drivers from here...

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/mui38.htm

Sometimes another installer will install old MUI drivers that cause a crash.

Beyond that, you would probably need to install SegTracker and SmartCrash to get more info on the crash...

http://aminet.net/search?query=SegTracker.lha
http://aminet.net/search?query=smartcrash.lha
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 08:54:39 PM »
@matthey

Thanks!  I should have realised it would be named ami rather than amiga ;)
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 02:23:01 AM »
Quote from: esc;663340
Guru 8000 0004 typically has something to do with memory addressing.  I'd try re-seating all of your boards/components, and re-seating your ram.  In fact, you may just have bad ram...

You could also try removing one component at a time and trying to re-create the error.  If suddenly it doesn't guru on you, you know what piece of hardware was upsetting your Amiga.  :)

The odd thing is that my A1200 seems otherwise stable. I would think other programs would be crashing as well. Right now I have a Blizzard 1260 (with ram) in route to me, so it should be interesting to see if it still happens with that accelerator. The problem is the 1260 has been misrouted by the USPS and I just hope it turns up.
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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2011, 02:23:49 AM »
Quote from: matthey;663345
It's a FTP program.



http://aminet.net/search?query=AmiTradeCenter


@bbond007
Yea, it could be software or hardware. That's a very generic guru on the Amiga. You might try deleting any settings files and (re)installing the latest MUI drivers from here...

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/mui38.htm

Sometimes another installer will install old MUI drivers that cause a crash.

Beyond that, you would probably need to install SegTracker and SmartCrash to get more info on the crash...

http://aminet.net/search?query=SegTracker.lha
http://aminet.net/search?query=smartcrash.lha

I'll try all that and report back what I find.

well so far mui38 fails to install says

COPYLIB: Can't open file " " in line 299

DOS Error type : Unable to locate a file or drawer.

I tried this installer with the same result

http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/Installer-43_3

I'll go look ar like 299 or move on to SegTracker & smartcrash.

ok, finally I used this installer for MUI.

http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/Installer

same GURU :(

thanks.

-nate
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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2011, 03:54:52 AM »
Quote from: matthey;663345
It's a FTP program.



http://aminet.net/search?query=AmiTradeCenter


@bbond007
Yea, it could be software or hardware. That's a very generic guru on the Amiga. You might try deleting any settings files and (re)installing the latest MUI drivers from here...

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/mui38.htm

Sometimes another installer will install old MUI drivers that cause a crash.

Beyond that, you would probably need to install SegTracker and SmartCrash to get more info on the crash...

http://aminet.net/search?query=SegTracker.lha
http://aminet.net/search?query=smartcrash.lha


SegTracker and SmartCrash installed.

I have no idea what this stuff is... but i have attached a photo!

Any info would be appreciated.

thanks
-nate
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2011, 05:21:48 PM »
Quote from: bbond007;663380
SegTracker and SmartCrash installed.

I have no idea what this stuff is... but i have attached a photo!


Does the PC say 12? There is no code that should be running near this location. The ATCTrader task took a bad branch to this location. The bad code could very well be in a library called from that task. This looks very much like the bug I encountered in this thread...

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59287

Check if you have Libs:xad/XFD and if so delete it. This is installed by AmigaOS 3.9 Unofficial Boing Bags if you have installed them lately. I'm going to tell them to take it out right now.
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2011, 06:26:56 PM »
Quote from: bbond007;663304
I don't know what is causing this error. I know this program used to work for me!

I tried downloading a new copy from Aminet. Same result...

I ran Snoopdos (cuz its the shizzle) and the error occurs after loading ATCTrader which is is not really useful info - I know, just listing what I tried.

ACTrader
Program failed (error #8000004).
Wait for disk activity to finish.

I have a 1200 with 030 typhoon 64MB, FastATA MK IV, PCMCIA wifi, MiamiDX...

Any ideas? I have no clue.

thanks

-nate


***
Short:   Powerful FTP-Client with ADT support
Author:   gelbgmx.net (Matthias Böcker)
Uploader:   polluks sdf lonestar org (Stefan Haubenthal)
Type:   comm/tcp
Version:   V1.4
Replaces:   AmiTradeCenter.lha
Requires:   min. 68020, TCP/IP-Stack, MUI 3.8, NList.mcc, Listree.mcc, Busy.mcc
***

...Are you absolutely certain that you have NList.mcc, Listree.mcc and Busy.mcc installed?  I think I remember getting a guru due to one of those being missing.
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 12:14:59 AM »
Quote from: matthey;663429
Does the PC say 12? There is no code that should be running near this location. The ATCTrader task took a bad branch to this location. The bad code could very well be in a library called from that task. This looks very much like the bug I encountered in this thread...

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59287

Check if you have Libs:xad/XFD and if so delete it. This is installed by AmigaOS 3.9 Unofficial Boing Bags if you have installed them lately. I'm going to tell them to take it out right now.

I increased the font. Only problem is now some of the gibberish is getting cut off... even with overscan.

2 it is, and another time 4A.

Don't have Libs:xad/XFD, but I'm only running ClassicWB ADV with 3.1.

NList.mcc, Listree.mcc, Busy.mcc are in SYS:System/MUI/libs/mui

Is that where they go?

I suppose I could copy my SYS over to an external drive and try this under WinUAE. That would at least say if it is a hardware issue.

Thanks for the help
-nate
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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 01:29:54 AM »
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2 it is, and another time 4A.


Alright, I can read it now. SmartCrash just gives me a post mortum snapshot of what happened. A real debugger would be needed to trace the problem. AmiTradeCenter is branching into low memory (where ROM is mapped) probably from reading a NULL pointer. It finds some illegal code there and crashes. There is probably a corrupt setting or a failed load of a resource/library/gui element that is improperly checked. I doubt it's a hardware or memory problem as it's repeatable and you're system is stable. You can try the "rts" gadget of SmartCrash which will continue after the bad branch if it's a bsr or jsr. It sometimes works but AmiTradeCenter probably needs to exit after not loading something and will crash again. You could try SnoopDOS or Snoopy to see if anything is trying to load but fails before the crash. Look for a failed lock (probably the last before the crash) by AmiTradeCenter. This would tell you where it's expecting to find a file too. If there is no failure then maybe a settings file is loaded right before the crash. Delete it if that is the case.

Quote from: bbond007;663472

NList.mcc, Listree.mcc, Busy.mcc are in SYS:System/MUI/libs/mui

Is that where they go?


That's the correct directory but it's in an odd place. They usually go in SYS:MUI/Libs/MUI but it depends on where your assign in S:user-startup is for MUI:. Mine is...

assign MUI: SYS:MUI

yours should probably be...

assign MUI: SYS:System/MUI

There is probably AmiTradeCenter assigns in your user-startup also. You might delete all those lines and delete your whole AmiTradeCenter install and then try a fresh install. If it still doesn't work, you might delete all the MUI assigns in user-startup and your SYS:System/MUI directory (with sub directories) and try a fresh install with the unofficial MUI install from the link I posted. Maybe try installing to SYS:MUI this time although it shouldn't matter. If that doesn't work, wait for your new accelerator and try it. If that doesn't work, try the old Windows trick and reformat the hard drive and reinstall the whole operating system ;). If you don't want to do that, find yourself a different FTP program. FTPMount with DiskMaster 2 fulfills all my FTP needs.

Quote from: bbond007;663472

I suppose I could copy my SYS over to an external drive and try this under WinUAE. That would at least say if it is a hardware issue.


Don't count on it crashing but it probably won't work right and might give a hint as to what is wrong. If it doesn't crash, you might try SnoopDOS or Snoopy again to figure out what isn't loading.
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2011, 02:52:12 AM »
matthey

Thanks for the suggestions. That gives me a few more things to try.

I'm making a copy of my system now to a CF card. Its going slow because its on a USB. I'll try it with WinUAE.

The MUI came installed with ClassicWB ADV in that location. I just installed over the top.

I have not decided if I should stick with ClassicWB ADVSP and 3.1 or switch to 3.9 when I get my new 060. I did actually buy 3.9 from the Compuquick booth at one of the St. Louis Amiga shows. I can't remember why I never liked it...

I could also switch to samba over FTP. I do like ATC though :)
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2011, 02:22:27 PM »
There's also AmiFTP as well, which also does the job.

http://m68k.aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/AmiFTP
 

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Re: Amiga Trade Center error #80000004
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2011, 05:59:22 PM »
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There's also AmiFTP as well, which also does the job.

http://m68k.aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/AmiFTP


There is obviously something wrong with my software as I had a similar result under UAE. I also notice with the new accelerator the PC = FFFFFFFD6. I tried AmiFTP, not bad. I have been using SimpleFTP now which works well enough.

Unfortunately my Windows7 took another round of updates from Microshaft and now WinUAE won't run anymore at all. What a mess with my windows7 notebook. Last weekend  I went to restart it and it was stuck on the shutting down screen, so I turned it off. It never booted again after that and I thought the HD probably crashed. I put in another HD and it happened to have a fresh copy of Window7 ultimate with all my apps installed. It was a backup I made after redoing my previous laptop. I thought I had lucked out because all I had to do with install a few drivers. And it was way faster than the stock install with all of the Toshiba shovelware. The OS worked a few days but wanted to reactivate but I did not want to do that because the Winblows an OEM (system builder) copy tied to my old notebook which I gave to my mom. My fear is that it would not activate, or worse yet, activate and deactivate my mom. So I tried to switch the key for both my home premium OEM and my upgrade key for ultimate that I purchased. No dice. And now there is the issue of WINUAE not working at all.

Oh. I've gone way off topic, but it is my thread... Lets just say I have bigger fish to fry than ATC ATM :)

I also located my 3.9 CD and I now know where it is. I am thinking of installing it, but right now my Amiga only has 16MB ram because my new accelerator can only take a single-sided SIMM.

_nate