Steve Jobs passed away!

[Jpan1]

I love the Art of technology the feeling you are not using technology when you actually are. I think this is symbiotic, that we are pretty much one with the process and system which ever hardware and whatever system we choose to use. Steve Jobs is a Guru as with Jay miner of the Amiga. So time for a bit of guru Meditation...

[_ThEcRoW]

Intel Mac==PC

Amiga NG shows PPC is expensive alternative, true Macs are PPC for me and justify the extra cost.

128k Mac and iTunes store are perfect Steve Jobs ideas made real. Neither is the best but both were first and inspirational to many rivals.

True Amigas are 68k then. PPC was never adopted by commodore for Amiga os3.1.

[Vlabguy1]

Truly sad and disappointed that one of the greats has left the building .  I ask why sometimes that the good ones get taken so early.  I for was looking forward many more of Steve's product announcements/speeches.  I pictured him in his 70's doing this.. what a complete shame.  I also wonder if he actually too the time to sit back relax and enjoy life..

Rich
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[Vlabguy1]

Back on topic, his showmanship certainly improved over the years but nobody can deny his enthusiasm for technology, even at the start.

Here, Steve demonstrates the original OSX
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What a great video.. thanks for posting it..

Rich
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.....  3D is all the rage now.. mmmm

[smerf]

Hi,

I hated Apple, Macs, and anything made by Steve Jobs, his computers really where not the tech magic that everybody says it was. Compared to Amiga the original MAC writing was on the wall, and in black and white, that it was a computer without color, grace and personallity.

My saying:

iphone, ipod, ipad, and I paid.

smerf

[lsmart]

Hi,

I hated Apple, Macs, and anything made by Steve Jobs, his computers really where not the tech magic that everybody says it was. Compared to Amiga the original MAC ...

Compared to the Amiga the original Mac was out two years earlier had a decent word-processor and was more expensive. Steve Jobs wanted it to retail for $500. If he´d succeeded at that, Macintosh might have been an instant hit - despite of its lack of multitasking, color, RAM, and cursor keys. There wouldn´t have been a Superbowl commercial however.

As for the magic - Steves concept of magic was to limit the experience to the functionality of the complete package, while some of us love to look at the individual parts. While his favourite look was black and white images, some of us loved to use all colors of the rainbow and while he wanted the computer to be a useful part of our lives, some of us just wanted to play really good games - it is a matter of preference (and money of course).

At any rate: Steve had a clear vision what computing for the (wealthy an well educated) masses could mean. He knew what the Bosendorfer Piano in computing would look like and he always said how the computer should be more like a phone. So in retrospect it comes to no surprise that one of the greatest successes of Apple is the iPhone.

[amiga1084]

Rest in peace Steve, you made it possible that Microsoft and Billy Boy was not the only computer system on the face of the Earth. I just wonder if he was in charge of Commodore what he would have done for the Amiga.

R.I.P

[smerf]

Rest in peace Steve, you made it possible that Microsoft and Billy Boy was not the only computer system on the face of the Earth. I just wonder if he was in charge of Commodore what he would have done for the Amiga.

R.I.P

@amiga Jobs worshippers,

[you made it possible that Microsoft and Billy Boy was not the only computer system on the face of the Earth.]

You also made it possible to cut into Amiga sales, since most MAC/Apple products were placed right next to the Amiga displays. Your swindling fast talking salesman convinced people that the Amiga computers were a cheap no nothing computer, even though they had color, sound and multi-tasking. Your salesman told customers that the Amiga was nothing but a high priced game machine, so I lost 1 customer or more out of every five to a piece of junk techno crap called a MAC, or Apple II. Some people are just idiots and will believe anything a well trained salesman will tell them. (They wore suits, I wore levi's and polo shirts). They were paid $30 an hour, I was paid $7 an hour. They sold crap, and I sold the most advanced computer in history at the time. IBM or PC's were even better than the MAC / Apple II.

[I just wonder if he was in charge of Commodore what he would have done for the Amiga.]

First thing to say about Steve Jobs is "If it wasn't his way it was the highway" Know that first hand since worked with him, if it wasn't his idea, it was no idea. He was a ruthless CEO who kept full control over his computer, programs and OS. So if Steve Jobs was in charge of Amiga, your open OS that we have no would have been strictly limited to NO CHANGES, for Steve Jobs taught that the regular computer user did not have the smarts enough to try to change anything in the OS. He made sure that change in his computers would be very hard to do, and by most standards his computer users are just people who want to turn the computer on, use it to do what they have to do and then turn it off, most of the apple computer users are computer naive. For more information on this subject you can ask Karlos or Wayne, they will probably agree with me.

So if Steve jobs had control of the Amiga you would have a locked down computer, with expensive programs that worked great and the only thing you had to know about computers was where the on/off switch was at.

To Steve RIP, but good riddance to bad company and very bad computers.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@ismart,

You are correct in your analogy, as for the Amiga I liked the color the sound and the games, but most of all I liked the utilities, the software for animation, video, music, 3D and rendering. I walked into my favorite store one day and was talking about the Amiga, and the salesman said it was a great game machine, but for business you had to use a PC or a MAC, well during this time I was talking to him at least 10 PC users had purchased software and they were all games. The three MAC users bought the then new game Empire. It was really funny because all the Amiga users that purchased during this time bought productivity software. So much for the analysis of the Amiga being a game computer.

smerf

[amiga1084]

What Ever!

I love my IPod classic, my IPhone 4 and my Quad Core G5 PowerMac and if Steve wasn't there none off these wonderful creations would have ever come to light. By the way I am typing this thread using my MAC!

R.I.P Steve

[Amiduffer]

Since folks love to play "what if?" around here, if Jobs had not returned to Apple, would it have collapsed like Commodore?

I don't think I've spent a penny on a single thing Apple produced.

[bloodline]

I think was made Steve Jobs great wasn't what he did during his first tenure at Apple... I think we all agree, and I think he probably would too, that Apple was "crap".

It is when Steve Jobs got a second chance to make mass market computers, after learning from all his mistakes that he got good. In short, he was a bright man who got very lucky and had a second chance!

[B00tDisk]

Since folks love to play "what if?" around here, if Jobs had not returned to Apple, would it have collapsed like Commodore?

I don't think I've spent a penny on a single thing Apple produced.

Apple was doomed in the mid 1990s.  Even with the iMac's designer working hard, I don't think there was that "spark" that Jobs brought (note: I think Jobs was a horrible person, but that's for another time).  The two saving events for Apple were Jobs' return and Microsoft's huge infusion of cash.

As I often say, Apple is still alive because Microsoft decided to let them live.

[hooligan]

Guys, get real. Steve didn't invent anything, Steve didn't design anything. They have designers and research department. We did not lose anything.

[Reptile]

True Amigas are 68k then. PPC was never adopted by commodore for Amiga os3.1.

True but Commodore went long before PPCs became mainstream computer processors. Apple were still on 68k when CBM went.

I think naturally, Commodore would have moved to PPC, even if it was a couple of years after Apple. It's the natural progression...

[Kronos]

Guys, get real. Steve didn't invent anything, Steve didn't design anything. They have designers and research department. We did not lose anything.

But Steve was the guy who could see what inventions and what designs needed to be coupled with what marketing to come uo with products pretty much creating their market....

Visionaries don't have to invent anything themselves they just ahve to be "enablers".