CD drive on A1200 IDE port?

[Astral]

Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY connected a CF drive as a master, and a CD/DVD drive as slave on a standard A1200 IDE bus, and been able to use them WITHOUT the use of some kind of 4 port adaptor? If so, HOW?

I swear I did this a couple of years back (if my memory serves me right ), but regardless of what I have tried over the last couple of days, using all kinds of combinations of hardware/software I'll be buggered if I can get it to work.

[amiman99]

I have a Dataflyer CD-XDS, which basically is a  External CD case with a IDE ribbon cable.
So, it can be done.
Personally, I have the 4 way IDE adapter in my A1200 with slim CDROM installed inside.
Some CF adapters come with Master/Slave jumpers, so do not, maybe that the problem?
What problem do you have?

[spaceman88]

Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY connected a CF drive as a master, and a CD/DVD drive as slave on a standard A1200 IDE bus, and been able to use them WITHOUT the use of some kind of 4 port adaptor? If so, HOW?

I swear I did this a couple of years back (if my memory serves me right ), but regardless of what I have tried over the last couple of days, using all kinds of combinations of hardware/software I'll be buggered if I can get it to work.

I did this on a 4000 a few months ago (Sandisk CF, HP CD burner, IDEfix97), then a month later it stopped working and no matter what I do I can't get it to work! Sorry for being such a downer :-(.

[freqmax]

Check:
 * Master, Slave, Cable select (CS)
 * Transfer mode: PIO, WDMA, UDMA and especially if all components agree correctly on what mode to use. Some CD-ROMs lie about their DMA capabilities.
 * Power supply is enough for all peak demands?

[LaserBack]

Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY connected a CF drive as a master, and a CD/DVD drive as slave on a standard A1200 IDE bus, and been able to use them WITHOUT the use of some kind of 4 port adaptor? If so, HOW?

I swear I did this a couple of years back (if my memory serves me right ), but regardless of what I have tried over the last couple of days, using all kinds of combinations of hardware/software I'll be buggered if I can get it to work.

of course it works on the A1200...never tried using a cf flash adapter but works using a common hardisk as master and a cdrom as slave
a common adapter 2.5 to 3.5 do the job perfect...for the cd software use idefix

[mrmoonlight]

Hi ,what would be the outcome if one of the 4 way buffered  IDE adapters was starting to break down ,

[bbond007]

Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY connected a CF drive as a master, and a CD/DVD drive as slave on a standard A1200 IDE bus, and been able to use them WITHOUT the use of some kind of 4 port adaptor? If so, HOW?

I swear I did this a couple of years back (if my memory serves me right ), but regardless of what I have tried over the last couple of days, using all kinds of combinations of hardware/software I'll be buggered if I can get it to work.

I think the purpose of the buffered interface is so you can have longer cables. Without that it will be unreliable if it works at all.

[smerf]

Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY connected a CF drive as a master, and a CD/DVD drive as slave on a standard A1200 IDE bus, and been able to use them WITHOUT the use of some kind of 4 port adaptor? If so, HOW?

I swear I did this a couple of years back (if my memory serves me right ), but regardless of what I have tried over the last couple of days, using all kinds of combinations of hardware/software I'll be buggered if I can get it to work.

Hi,

I worked on this for about 3 months, I have a 4 way ide buffered, and never could get the CF drive to work with the ide drive on my A1200. I tried putting it on as a master, slave, on the primary cable, on the secondary cable. It works fine by itself but if you ad a CD drive, nothing.

Sorry to give you this news, but if someone out there REALLY has it working on their computer. Let us know how you did it.

smerf

I really mean REALLY, not I heard.

[Astral]

if someone out there REALLY has it working on their computer. Let us know how you did it.

smerf

I really mean REALLY, not I heard.

@smerf and thread

SUCCESS...and it was a lot simpler than all the threads/opinions made it out to be! This is the combo...

Hardware:

* Standard A1200 IDE controller (*NO* 4 x IDE adaptor)
* 8g transcend CF card in a single CF card adaptor connected to the header on the cable closest to the IDE controller. Partitioned to 3gig ONLY on first part of CF card. Jumper set to "slave/master" not "master/slave".
* 2.5" cable to 3.5" x 2
* Slim CD model CR-176-B with 3.5" convertor connected to the header on the cable furthest from the IDE controller. Pin
* A500 power supply with CF power + CD power + floppy power all off floppy power header

Software:

It's not PROPERLY setup yet (hardware/software wise) but it IS working. Booted "without startup-sequence" and ran setpatch. Booted "without startup-sequence" again.
 

I'm running Kickstart 3.1

[Astral]

@smerf and thread

SUCCESS...and it was a lot simpler than all the threads on the net/opinions made it out to be! This is the combo...

* Standard A1200 IDE controller (*NO* 4 x IDE adaptor)
* 8g transcend CF card in a 3.5" single CF card adaptor connected to the header on the cable closest to the IDE controller. Partitioned to 3gig ONLY on first part of CF card (success gone once there was more partitions used). Jumper set to "slave/master" and not "master/slave". (Will go to a 2/4g SanDisk for reasons too long to explain here).
* 2.5" to 3.5" x 2 cable
* Slim CD model CR-176-B with 3.5" convertor connected to the header on the cable furthest from the IDE controller. Pin 28 removed on adaptor (maybe not necessary).
* A500 power supply with CF power + CD power + floppy power all off floppy power header
* Kickstart 3.1 (necessary?)

Booted "without startup-sequence" and ran setpatch. Booted "without startup-sequence" again. Using a mountlist and all the CacheCDFS bits I previously had on a disk from stuffing around last time, I mounted CD0:....voila! Works. CF accessible, and CD accessible. Admittedly, it's not PROPERLY setup yet, but it IS working, recognising CD's, allowing access to them and so on - CONSISTENTLY and RELIABLY. I did *NOT* use IDEFIX or similar software.

Even had it working with/without a Blizzard 060 card connected but NOT "software installed", and also a 80g HD as the slave instead of the CF card.

If you need more details smerf just ask! It was a very frustrating process getting this far, so if I can help I will!