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WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« on: September 15, 2011, 07:22:24 PM »
My french is so perfect...

English is far away easier than french : why my english is so crappy ??


I do a mental blocking on this langage : why ? How to remove it from my head ?



HELP !!!!

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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 07:45:58 PM »
I'm from Finnland so I undrestand your point, but I gotta remind you that finnish language isn't even Indoeuropean language, so Finnish isn't even distantly related to English, like French is. So there are people who have even bigger difficulties to learn English.

But English language IS and WILL BE "Lingua franca" of world, so it is something that everyone should learn.

There are one good online tool to anyone, google translator :) it doesn't produce good language, but it is helpfull tool to find out how to words are writen and nouns/verbs etc.
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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 08:03:47 PM »
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My french is so perfect...

English is far away easier than french : why my english is so crappy ??


I do a mental blocking on this langage : why ? How to remove it from my head ?



HELP !!!!


I believe the only way to get better at speaking a foreign language is practice. Watch British and American movies in their original language, with subtitles. Buy some English-language comic books. You could get translations of French language comics such as Tintin, this way you can refer to the works in their original language. After a while, try watching English movies with English subtitles. Then move on by switching from comics to books and disabling the subtitles completely.
It's been 13 years since i studied English in school but I try to use the language in some form a little bit every day. Although that might be easier in Sweden compared to France, since we are so bombarded by English all the time - in advertising, on TV, in movies, etc.
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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 08:07:11 PM »
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English is far away easier than french : why my english is so crappy ??
It's because English isn't necessarily an easy language to learn. The same goes for Dutch (my first language).
 

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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 08:11:10 PM »
Take comfort, even a lot of native anglophones aren't actually good with English. As people have said, it's tricky to learn, and practice and a whole lot of exposure to good English is key.
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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 08:24:58 PM »
Sorry, but I have to dissent. English is rather easy to learn - but it's really hard to master. ;)
 

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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 08:29:01 PM »
Same situation, some time my head go mad to try to understand the daily Amiga Forum, but its the only way to Get good Tecnical info and help  about Amiga Computers I´M From Spain,  and here don´t still much Amiga Heart Fever :confused: (not sure if Thats what I want to say but my english jeejje any way).
 
mmm its a good idea to watch films with subtitles , I Think about this
 
 
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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 09:20:55 PM »
Quote from: Cosmos;659473
My french is so perfect...

English is far away easier than french : why my english is so crappy ??


I do a mental blocking on this langage : why ? How to remove it from my head ?



HELP !!!!

OK, here's what you do... I'll give options for the main varieties of english out there (Aussie, American, and Ye olde Original)

First:  Stop drinking wine if you do when having a cocktail etc.  Drink beer instead.  For Aussie and American English (Not including the Pacific Northwest), pick a crappy store brand lager and drink no less than n+6 of them.  For British English or American PNW english, drink a fine stout or ale or lambic brewed at the pub you are frequenting.  The glass should measure at least one imperial pint.

Second:  watch lots of crappy american daytime television.  or the BBC.  whichever.  For aussie?  Maybe just watch Crocodile Dundee a bunch.  Or Mad MAx.

Third:  You seem like a pretty happy dude.  For proper english speaking, you should be mad or at the least, irritated.  Stubbing your toe helps, or staring long at a picture of smilin' George Bush.

fourth:  Realize its basically a germanic language and we have a kajillion special cases for words because we talk too damn much and agree on nothing.
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 09:32:22 PM »
bajillion, bazillion, gazillion, jillion, squillion, kabillion, googillion, umptillion, zillion....
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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 10:08:12 PM »
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I'm from Finnland so I undrestand your point, but I gotta remind you that finnish language isn't even Indoeuropean language, so Finnish isn't even distantly related to English, like French is. So there are people who have even bigger difficulties to learn English.


Finnish is an interesting language. Very heavy use of relational synthesis. Almost the complete opposite of English in that respect.
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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 11:03:52 PM »
Quote from: Cosmos;659473
My french is so perfect...

English is far away easier than french : why my english is so crappy ??


I do a mental blocking on this langage : why ? How to remove it from my head ?



HELP !!!!


As a native English speaker I find Mandarin easier than French. I think a lot of it comes down to how you learn in the first place. I studied French at school and like most of us learning a language I had to read lists of words and repeat them over and over again. This is not how anyone should learn a language. The Pimsleur method, based on natural learning, (the way a child learns it's native tongue) is far better. No text required either, you don't even need to be able to read.

The trouble is once your taught the school method you are doomed unless you get exposure to native speakers continuously.

Come and live in the UK for a year, that should do it. You can also learn how to roll cheese downhill, drink warm beer and vomit on holiday whilst maintaining an inflated sense of superiority over colonials like the Aussies and Americans. Welcome to England, (a German colony).
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 11:46:05 PM »
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My french is so perfect...

English is far away easier than french : why my english is so crappy ??


I do a mental blocking on this langage : why ? How to remove it from my head ?



HELP !!!!


There is no better way to learn a language than Rosetta Stone.

http://www.rosettastone.co.uk/learn-english
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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 11:52:13 PM »
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There is no better way to learn a language than Rosetta Stone.


You've not tried the Pimsleur method I see.

http://www.pimsleurmethod.com/

Far quicker start than Rosetta stone. However, Pimsleur followed by Rosetta stone, now that works even better.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 11:56:21 PM »
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You've not tried the Pimsleur method I see.

http://www.pimsleurmethod.com/

Far quicker start than Rosetta stone. However, Pimsleur followed by Rosetta stone, now that works even better.


I found Pimsleur to be rubbish for both Arabic and Farsi.

Rosetta Stone + Conversing in chosen language 24/7 is the best method.

edit: Being married to a fluent speaker of both makes it a damn site easier though.
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Re: WTFF : Why I do a mental blocking on english ? Help me !!
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2011, 12:46:52 AM »
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I found Pimsleur to be rubbish for both Arabic and Farsi.

Rosetta Stone + Conversing in chosen language 24/7 is the best method.

edit: Being married to a fluent speaker of both makes it a damn site easier though.


Works well for Mandarin and quite frankly that's the only language I'm interested in learning, horses for courses I guess.
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