Amiga on the IBM hardware?

[EngineersCake]

Perhaps this is a stupid question, but will Amiga run on IBM PowerPC hardware? (i.e. the Intellistation Power 185 or RS/6000) I know if it did, people would probably be talking a bout it. With the little research I've done, I haven't found anything.

Any thoughts?

[Tension]

no

[HotRod]

It runs on this series of computers (not produced any longer):

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOne
The Pegasos II that was made to run MorphOS but now AOS 4.1 also runs on it.

These computers (can be bought now):

http://www.acube-systems.biz/index.php?page=hardware

And finally the AmigaOne X1000 that isn't available yet but chances are that it will be available to end users this year,

http://a-eon.com/

[EngineersCake]

Thanks for the reply. Now how did Amiga get ported to those rare and discontinued boards and not to any mainstream hardware? (well, mainstream-ish) I've never actually seen an Intellistation or RS/6000 in person.

Also, there's an ODW with the Peg II on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pegasos-II-Open-Desktop-Workstation-/290607777969?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item43a992c8b1

Is installing Amiga on this as simple as instaling an OS on a WinTel machine?

[commodorejohn]

Thanks for the reply. Now how did Amiga get ported to those rare and discontinued boards and not to any mainstream hardware? (well, mainstream-ish)

Oh, it's Hyperion policy never to port to anything that's commonly available, let alone inexpensive. Hell, it took them how many years to port AOS4 even to classic Amigas with PPC accelerators?

[freqmax]

Oh, it's Hyperion policy never to port to anything that's commonly available, let alone inexpensive. Hell, it took them how many years to port AOS4 even to classic Amigas with PPC accelerators?

Ie.. use AmigaOS-3 on 68k hardware or NetBSD

[mongo]

Thanks for the reply. Now how did Amiga get ported to those rare and discontinued boards and not to any mainstream hardware? (well, mainstream-ish) I've never actually seen an Intellistation or RS/6000 in person.

Prices for an RS/6000 started at around $10,000 and went up to well over $100,000. A used Intellistation Power 185 will cost you $6000+. Not really a good choice for porting an OS to.

[EngineersCake]

Haha! Thank for the alternative OS suggestions. Is it the software or the hardware that makes it so hard to port to different boards?

I read recently that a Mac LC could be modified with a ROM chip to become an A1000.

[commodorejohn]

Haha! Thank for the alternative OS suggestions. Is it the software or the hardware that makes it so hard to port to different boards?

Hardware drivers are the hardest part of porting an OS to another machine (unless you're also switching CPU architecture,) but in this case it's more just plain damn stubbornness.

I read recently that a Mac LC could be modified with a ROM chip to become an A1000.

I very much doubt that, as the LC's hardware is entirely different. In the best-case scenario it would only run perfectly OS-friendly programs that didn't touch the hardware at all, and even then it couldn't do it very well without the blitter.

[runequester]

Well, the Pegasos boards were pretty mainstream, at least as far as these things goes. Too bad the company didn't keep up production of them.

[EngineersCake]

I very much doubt that, as the LC's hardware is entirely different. In the best-case scenario it would only run perfectly OS-friendly programs that didn't touch the hardware at all, and even then it couldn't do it very well without the blitter.

You're right about that. That was my mistake. It was NeXTStep that was running on the LC. I'm trying to familiarize myself with both systems.

Of course now I can't find the post on the NeXT forum. (le sigh)

Thanks for the info, people. (-:

[bbond007]

Oh, it's Hyperion policy never to port to anything that's commonly available, let alone inexpensive. Hell, it took them how many years to port AOS4 even to classic Amigas with PPC accelerators?

I guess at some point OS4 was working on the g4 Mac Mini (only 64mb vram model) but those machines are far too available and inexpensive, so they pulled the plug on that one...

I was going to try it, but my Mini did not have the right video configuration.

[ck007]

I guess at some point OS4 was working on the g4 Mac Mini (only 64mb vram model) but those machines are far too available and inexpensive, so they pulled the plug on that one...

I was going to try it, but my Mini did not have the right video configuration.

Yeah that was a real shame.  I had the right Mac Mini and had OS4 installed.  Was fairly unstable and froze a lot but looked promising.  If only they continued development...

Apparently Acube did the port without an agreement or contract which stirred up sh*t with Amiga Inc. and (I think) Hyperion.

As per usual, anything that would get Amiga to the masses gets sh*t canned

[Senex]

Also, there's an ODW with the Peg II on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pegasos-II-Open-Desktop-Workstation-/290607777969?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item43a992c8b1

Is installing Amiga on this as simple as instaling an OS on a WinTel machine?

While I don't use AmigaOS4, but MorphOS instead, I suppose the answer is basically "yes". Given that two out of the three Post-Commodore Amiga operating systems can be run natively on the Pegasos II, it might be the best choice.

MorphOS in addition also runs on PowerPC Macs (Homepage).

AROS on the other hand is running on standard PCs (although one has to check compatibility due to the variety of configurations), including an Android hosted port now as well.

[Heiroglyph]

Haha! Thank for the alternative OS suggestions. Is it the software or the hardware that makes it so hard to port to different boards?

The license. :flame:

I read recently that a Mac LC could be modified with a ROM chip to become an A1000.

I read fiction too.