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Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« on: September 07, 2011, 10:48:57 PM »
Incredibly difficult decision and hell, may just end up keeping both. Was leaning toward letting the A3000 go, but... which would you do?

I really like the user-serviceable friendly aspect of the A2000. Socketed chips, it's large case that holds 2 floppies, any Zorro II cards and a SCSI CD drive internally are also great features. Also like how the monitor sits up higher on the A2000... much better viewing than the A3000. I have a nice sized HD in my A2000, any Kickstart in ROM I want and a 28mhz SupraTurbo accelerator that seems to do a fantastic job with everything I've ever thrown at it. Games and apps that benefit from the speedup all seem to run just as fast as the 25mhz 030 in my A3000.

The A3000 naturally has the 030 processor and I've also got a Deneb card with it. I definitely wouldn't want an A3000 without USB at this point, but the A2000 with its CD drive is enough for when I want to transfer things to and fro my modern computer. I no longer use the Amiga to get online, but if I did, Deneb surely comes in handy for that as well. No longer interested in running an OS higher than 3.1 on a legacy machine, so both machines are well suited for that. Oh, and I could care less about Amber for the time being while all my C= monitors are working anyway. lol    The high density drive is of little or no use to me as well.

Kind of at a crossroads here. Neither machine sees much use, so am thinking I should get rid of one. But if I do, I want it to be monetarily worth it or take something in on trade I would actually use. Originally, I was thinking of letting go of the A3000, since it's a more desirable machine which means that it'll fetch more money. I love the looks of the little bugger though and its keyboard is oh so sexy.

I've got spare motherboards, power supplies, mice and keyboards for both machines, so keeping 'em alive for the duration won't be too difficult.

Which would you be more likely to let go?
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 10:51:00 PM »
I recently sold my A4000 and kept my A3000 if that's of any help to you?
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 10:56:07 PM »
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I recently sold my A4000 and kept my A3000 if that's of any help to you?


hmmm... are you using a gfx card nicholas?

in regard to the original question, keep the A3000. can't see any reason you'd want to keep the 2000. Zorro 3 plus VGA passthrough for games is an unbeatable combination.

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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 10:56:48 PM »
Personally I'd sell the 2000. At least in NZ 3000s are a rare find...2000s fall from the skies in comparison. If you change your mind it'll be easier to find a cheap 2000 I'd have thought in most areas than a 3000.

Keep the 3000 !! :)
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 10:57:09 PM »
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I recently sold my A4000 and kept my A3000 if that's of any help to you?

Yeah, all input is welcome. Objectivity regarding the OCS/ECS machines is good. Like I said, I'm not 100% sure which way to go yet, if any. I too don't care to own an AGA machine per se and the machines I do own see very little use outside of the occasional and very limited game time. I keep telling myself I'll do something more "productive", but we're going on years now and nothing! lol
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 11:04:26 PM »
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hmmm... are you using a gfx card nicholas?


Yeah, Picasso IV.
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 11:05:58 PM »
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Yeah, all input is welcome. Objectivity is good. Like I said, I'm not 100% sure which way to go yet, if any. I too don't care to own an AGA machine per se and the machines I do own see very little use outside of the occasional and very limited game time. I keep telling myself I'll do something more "productive", but we're going on years now and nothing! lol


I know that feeling all too well! :lol:

I have an A1200/060 for my WHDLoad fix so I don't really miss the A4000.
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 11:18:32 PM »
I can't vote on this poll your interests and mine conflict.

Selling the 3000 would be faster and more profitable.  I know I'd be interested, but that may not be best for you.
 

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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 11:24:20 PM »
I'd keep the A2000 assuming it is an ECS model.  The A3000 might have the built in SDFF and Z3 slots, but the A2000 has more space inside for expansions.  Also, as you have a CPU card I assume you have SCSI on that which is probably better than then SCSI on the A3000.

My A3000 sits on a shelf while my A2000 and A4000 get played with.
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2011, 11:41:07 PM »
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I'd keep the A2000 assuming it is an ECS model.  The A3000 might have the built in SDFF and Z3 slots, but the A2000 has more space inside for expansions.  Also, as you have a CPU card I assume you have SCSI on that which is probably better than then SCSI on the A3000.


Yeah, I'm not really interested in the best performance anymore. If I was, I would have kept my super souped up A2500 with its 060, CV64/3D, OS3.9 blah, blah, blah setup.

And yes, the A2000 is ECS and has a 2091 SCSI card. 6mb of RAM and a 1GB HD. Even have a MegaChip I might keep and throw in there if I sell the A3000. The SupraTurbo is not a conventional accelerator as it's just a faster 68000 with lots of cache RAM. Great accelerator though for the money. Especially considering the cost.
 

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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2011, 11:50:11 PM »
I'd keep the A3000 just because it takes up less space if you're really not using it very much and it has 31khz video out and Zorro III. Less room to expand, true but you don't need a lot of boards to have a good setup. I've got just 3 good ones in my A4000: a Toaster 4000, a Picasso II and a Fastlane Z3. All I really need in the Zorro department. If you sold the A2000 and put a A3640 in your A3000 with some of the money, you'd have a lot faster machine.

I seem to be cursed with A3000s. A few years ago, I was trying to buy one and every deal fell through and I saw an A4000 Video Toaster on ebay, put one bid on it and won it and a whole lot of extra Amiga hardware and just gave up on the A3000 and have been happy with it ever since.
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2011, 11:57:44 PM »
To me, the A3000 takes up more space and there's more wires by the time you add an external floppy and CD drive. One of the reasons I won't deal with a wedge system Amiga anymore. Not an issue though if I kept the A3000, 'cause I'd have Deneb to handle what I'd be doing on CD-ROM  :)
 

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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2011, 12:11:36 AM »
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To me, the A3000 takes up more space and there's more wires by the time you add an external floppy and CD drive. One of the reasons I won't deal with a wedge system Amiga anymore. Not an issue though if I kept the A3000, 'cause I'd have Deneb to handle what I'd be doing on CD-ROM  :)


I have a Deneb+USB Ethernet and Audio, Picasso IV and a CSMK2/060/SCSI in my A3000, plus external SCSI DVD-RW and two external floppy drives.

I can't think of anything else I'd add to it.
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2011, 12:13:34 AM »
It doesn't sound like you do any real serious work with your Amiga. If it is pretty basic use and the occasional game, the A2000 might be the best one to keep.
Is the A3000 up to date chip wise? (so there are no Zorro III issues, etc) and stuffed full of RAM? If yes, maybe I would keep the A3000.
Do you still have the A1000? That would make a difference in my final decision too.
I would most likely keep them all!
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Re: Poll: Let the A2000 or A3000 go?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2011, 12:17:39 AM »
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Is the A3000 up to date chip wise? (so there are no Zorro III issues, etc) and stuffed full of RAM? If yes, maybe I would keep the A3000.
Do you still have the A1000? That would make a difference in my final decision too.
I would most likely keep them all!
Oh yeah, ain't letting go of my (2) A1000's and all their expansions just yet  :)

I'd have to take another look inside the A3000, but I'm 99% sure it has Buster 11 and everything else is pretty much up to date. 8mb Zip RAM, 2mb Chip. No ZIII issues after the latest Deneb firmware update.