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Amiga Forever
« on: September 04, 2011, 02:36:31 AM »
Have heard mixed opinions about this software. I currently have a version installed on a windows machine, but have yet to get the Amiga data and programs I am using over to the emulation.

I use my A2000's to create and print documents that include images, and would like to have the emulation as a backup system just in case.

Would anyone care to comment on:

--The simplest way to transfer the data and programs

--The ability of this software to actually print documents

--Any alternatives, and if so, why, instead of this one

Regards,

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2011, 02:39:06 AM »
1. Parnet, or a serial connection if ethernet not available
3. Amithlon. Faster, less overhead, more drivers/direct HW access. Potentially larger software library (will run x86 code for AmigaOS)
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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2011, 02:46:32 AM »
I appreciate the quick response, but as I am not a tech, it is all undecipherable to me.
Can you elaborate in a simpler form please?

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2011, 06:48:11 AM »
It's a good collection of legal stuff.

The best alternative is what is already included, WinUAE, so other than updating the version of WinUAE it uses (which it can do for itself, it can check for updates) you're good to go.

The big benefit to Amiga Forever IMHO is the ease of setup, legal ROMs that you don't have to get from the Amiga to the PC and the file transfer tools if you need to connect to a real Amiga to transfer files.

I don't often print, but yes, it can print.

As for transferring files, are they floppies or hard drives?

If they are hard drives and you can physically connect them to the PC, then it can be configured to use them directly.

For floppies you'll need to make disk images and get them to the PC.  AF includes programs for this, but you'll either need network on the Amiga or a null modem cable.
 

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2011, 06:48:48 AM »
@nineoc,

I use my PC and a floppy disk. Just set up your floppy disk to foramat as PC0: on the Amiga. A little slow but works. Of course you could always email it to yourself.

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2011, 07:37:03 AM »
Thanks guys, these comments are very helpful.

As for the data transfer, it is all on the Amiga's hard drives, and the programs are on the
Amiga and on the original floppies.
 

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2011, 11:27:19 AM »
Quote from: nineoc;657775
Have heard mixed opinions about this software. I currently have a version installed on a windows machine, but have yet to get the Amiga data and programs I am using over to the emulation.

I use my A2000's to create and print documents that include images, and would like to have the emulation as a backup system just in case.

Would anyone care to comment on:

--The simplest way to transfer the data and programs

--The ability of this software to actually print documents

--Any alternatives, and if so, why, instead of this one

Regards,

W

Yes....download WinUAE FOR FREE :)
 

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2011, 11:40:28 AM »
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It's a good collection of legal stuff.

The big benefit to Amiga Forever IMHO is the ease of setup, legal ROMs that you don't have to get from the Amiga to the PC and the file transfer tools if you need to connect to a real Amiga to transfer files.


Rubbish, he is perfectly entitled to use a kickstart rom image AND full set of workbench disk ADFs as supplied with his A2000 AS HE ALREADY OWNS THEM.

This stuff about having to manually transfer your own kickstart/workbench is a lie

I own an Amiga 1000,500,2000,1200,600 and CD32 which means after finding the associated files to download I am legally using

kickstart 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 2.04, 3.0, 3.1 AND full disk set ADFs of associated workbench.

The resulting files would be the same legally so I cut out all the hard work :roflmao:
 

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2011, 01:12:48 PM »
Amiga Forever updates it's files automatically, btw
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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2011, 01:12:58 PM »
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Rubbish, he is perfectly entitled to use a kickstart rom image AND full set of workbench disk ADFs as supplied with his A2000 AS HE ALREADY OWNS THEM.


This is not true. What he bought with his Amiga is a single-place license. This means he may use it with one machine only. Strictly speaking he has to remove the ROM from the A2000 and erase the harddrive if he wants to use the ROM and ADF images in WinUAE.

Let's face it, everybody uses his/her self-made or downloaded ROM and ADF files on every PC he/she owns without taking care about licenses and such. Yes.

But it's simply not true to say that it's legal. It's not.

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2011, 01:18:15 PM »
http://www.amigaforever.com/

plus, they keep updating the product. If you care about Amiga History you will appreciate Amiga Forever.
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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2011, 01:43:54 PM »
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This is not true. What he bought with his Amiga is a single-place license. This means he may use it with one machine only. Strictly speaking he has to remove the ROM from the A2000 and erase the harddrive if he wants to use the ROM and ADF images in WinUAE.

Let's face it, everybody uses his/her self-made or downloaded ROM and ADF files on every PC he/she owns without taking care about licenses and such. Yes.

But it's simply not true to say that it's legal. It's not.


Hmm license arguments again.  Is it true to say something is legal if it isn't illegal ?
"single-place" license I haven't heard of that one before.  So If said gentleman had two A2000s and moved his rom and HD between them he would be qualified as licensed ?
What if he used a backup HD ?  And it goes on and on and on. What about Accellerators that copy the ROM into 32bit memory?  Is the ROM "active memory" if it has no power ?

There's no need to speak strictly anymore.  As long as the licensed product is not distributed I don't think any person, company, or court in the world would even look sideways at someone using a duplicate copy of their amiga product on another device.  Even at the same time.  The trees are falling in the forest and nobody is listening.

Get Amiga Forever if you have any concerns and you get a handy untility bundle as well.  Worth the money.
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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2011, 02:54:44 PM »
Yes amiga forever does autoupdate files. Just did that for me and broke my once working system,telling me it needs xp sp2 when its on that . Gee thanks for updating my system files. Piece of ****. Delete and just install winuae. Bloated pile of ****.
 

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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2011, 03:42:20 PM »
Amiga Forever is the most painless was of setting up WinUAE on a PC you can imagine.  Everything you need is included, plus multiple pre-configured hard drive installations meaning you can boot into OS1.3, OS3.1+, Amikit, Amisys, wtc by just selecting from a menu (or build your own custom configuration).

I've recently used it for prepping hard drives for my A4000.  I've put a removable 3.5" drive rack in my PC and A4000 and I use Amiga Forever to mount the 3.5" drive, format it as an Amiga drive, copy over the installation (ClassicWB) and then drop it into my real Amiga.  I've also used it for prepping Hard Drive Files for my Minimig v1.1, FPGA Arcade and Chameleon64.

It's worth every penny in my opinion.

Oh, and it also contains a program called "Amiga Explorer" for linking your Amiga and your PC via a null-modem cable across your serial ports.  I've only ever tried it once as I use USB flash drives myself.
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Re: Amiga Forever
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 04:29:38 PM »
@gertsy,

Legal/illegal roms, hey I don't think Commodore would mind, they are gone. Would like to know who bought the rights, and if they can prove it. Last I heard was gateway had all the rights. but may have sold them to someone else. Anyway does anyone really care about an old worn out OS that is so defunct that it can't even play a DVD.

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