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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2011, 12:58:51 AM »
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2011, 01:02:07 AM »
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2011, 01:05:19 AM »
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Oh please! Save it for your fellow Hyperion worshippers. You don't have to be in some minority to watch that video and see that the X1000, after two+ years of development, simply isn't living up to the "What is X?" hype from early 2010.

Everyone can see that it's slow, it's underwhelming, it's going to be overpriced, and it wouldn't be much a surprise if it never gets out of beta. It isn't anything that Amiga should be about, and it's not the fault of me or anyone who you named above. if you want somebody to blame for your crappy OS4 experience blame Hyperion and Co.


Watch out.  You'll get banned for not being in love with the X1000. Any voice of reason in the midst of this insane asylum brings immediate flaming, trolling/abuse complaints and warnings from the site moderators and other inmates here.  They're not worried about a free and open discussion of the issues surrounding the X1000.  The site moderators and admins only want to protect their investment in out-dated, overpriced hardware.  What a huge conflict of interest here.  If it's any consolation,  I share your opinion as do many others here but we're tired of being attacked whenever we point out what a turd the X1000 really is, or will be, if it's ever released.  And it's to AEON's advantage to continue dragging their feet on a release date as the components will only get cheaper for them over time, buy they'll still demand a premium price for a complete board.  So they continue with their smoke and mirrors game of bogus press releases, mystery pictures, etc, etc.....My question is this...when do even the hard-core fanatics here wake up and realize they're being scammed?  Who in their right mind wants to pay $3000USD for an OS with no modern apps that runs on hardware that performs on the level of a Pentium from 2003?

I also have to agree with Franko that the PPC based Amigas have none of the allure or excitement that I still find on classic Amigas.  OS4 on my PegII is like some very sick, twisted version of OSX except there are no useful applications and the graphics really suck.  I'll save my money for a Natami or FPGA Arcade system.  Even a SAM is a much better alternative to the X1000 when you consider the cost/performance ratio.  And guess what?  It's been available for quite a while now!  Let's see how long now before I get flamed or threatened by a site admin/moderator and accused of abusive posts or trolling.  I give it 10 minutes......
 

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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2011, 01:16:38 AM »
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I also have to agree with Franko that the PPC based Amigas have none of the allure or excitement that I still find on classic Amigas.

:eek: Feck me... you bugger... :eek:

Oooh... think I'm having a stoke... cobblers ferrellsl actualy agreed with me on something... aaaarggghhh... shock... too... much... to... handle...

Oh, oh... me tickers just stopped... thud. .  .   .

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PS: I'll give it 5 before the mods step in and have us all shot... ;)
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2011, 01:19:49 AM »
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Who in their right mind wants to pay $3000USD for an OS with no modern apps that runs on hardware that performs on the level of a Pentium from 2003?
Especially when an equal or (far) better PPC system can be had for < $500 in the form of a used Mac? Oh wait, I forgot, that totally doesn't count because Hyperion haven't deigned to port OS4 to it...
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2011, 01:25:26 AM »
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You have issues with knitting? Besides, this site is for knitting or something.


Nah, no issues it's just hard to explain things to people that don't know anything. Like talking to the cat. The cat I can understand, you on the other hand... maybe it's you on that picture, it would explain your way of (not) thinking.
 

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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2011, 01:34:16 AM »
Listen folks, strong opinions are fine, but taking cheap shots at each other is not.

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The site moderators and admins only want to protect their investment in out-dated, overpriced hardware. What a huge conflict ohe site moderators and admins only want to protect their investment in out-dated, overpriced hardware. What a huge conflict of interest here.f interest here.

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Actually, now that you mention it, I guess I did spend a fair amount on my last PC :-/
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2011, 02:19:32 AM »
Hmmm this thread is full of people with mental issues and people just hating for the sake of it.  If your not interested, simply don't bother posting and leave real Amiga enthusiasts to enjoy the natural evolution of the operating system.

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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2011, 02:30:40 AM »
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Hmmm this thread is full of people with mental issues and people just hating for the sake of it.  


How funny, I just came from AWN replying to your post to a thread I didn't start yet you unloaded on me: http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34150&forum=2#626502  Talking about hate filled post for just the sake of it, and here you just finished doing just that on AWN.  Funny that.

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Other then Linux, what other OS will actually use the second core?  Is it MP/SMP or some weak AMP kernel?  Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2011, 02:34:26 AM »
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Hmmm this thread is full of people with mental issues and people just hating for the sake of it.  If your not interested, simply don't bother posting and leave real Amiga enthusiasts to enjoy the natural evolution of the operating system.


But a real "Amiga enthusiast" wouldn't be using OS 4.x, a real "Amiga enthusiast" would be using genuine original Amiga hardware and doing everything possible to get the best out of it... ;)
 

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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2011, 02:35:09 AM »
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I also have to agree with Franko that the PPC based Amigas have none of the allure or excitement that I still find on classic Amigas.


I think you are a little heavy handed about NG amigas, but I do understand the disappointment   in the X1000.
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2011, 02:44:56 AM »
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But a real "Amiga enthusiast" wouldn't be using OS 4.x, a real "Amiga enthusiast" would be using genuine original Amiga hardware and doing everything possible to get the best out of it... ;)


In your opinion, and your opinion is not necessarily the same as the next guys.

Different people have different ideas about what makes an Amiga an Amiga. For some, it's the original hardware and software, or others it's mostly just one or the other. For those that regard the hardware as the quintessential factor, the MiniMig, FPGAArcade and NatAmi are the obvious evolution. For those that regard the OS as the main aspect, then one or more of the above NG OS are the logical evolution and what they run on is of secondary importance.

The only reason "NG" amiga operating systems exist at all is because enthusiasts have made them happen, whether they are commercial (as in the case of OS4 and MOS) or not. I doubt you could find a single developer that has worked on OS4, MorphOS or AROS that isn't or was never an avid enthusiast of the original systems.
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2011, 02:51:03 AM »
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Considering Franko has never owned any modern computers I hardly think his opinion on NG amigas valid. Particularly because he has never owned an NG amiga, just criticize.


Frellsl

I think you are a little heavy handed about NG amigas, but I do understand the disappointment   in the X1000.


Here we go again the mighty know all once again speculation and conjecturing about me and wrong as usual... :roflmao:

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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2011, 03:00:25 AM »
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In your opinion, and your opinion is not necessarily the same as the next guys.

Different people have different ideas about what makes an Amiga an Amiga. For some, it's the original hardware and software, or others it's mostly just one or the other. For those that regard the hardware as the quintessential factor, the MiniMig, FPGAArcade and NatAmi are the obvious evolution. For those that regard the OS as the main aspect, then one or more of the above NG OS are the logical evolution and what they run on is of secondary importance.

The only reason "NG" amiga operating systems exist at all is because enthusiasts have made them happen, whether they are commercial (as in the case of OS4 and MOS) or not. I doubt you could find a single developer that has worked on OS4, MorphOS or AROS that isn't or was never an avid enthusiast of the original systems.


Course it's "my opinion" I don't speak here on behalf of anyone other than myself... ;)

I too would doubt you would find anyone working on OS 4.x, MorphOS or AROS that wasn't a true Amiga fan at some point in time but to me the real Amiga stops at 3.9 and only on genuine Amiga hardware... :)

You see to me it's getting the best out of 2Meg of chipram and it's frankly limited software & hardware resources that make the Amiga the special machine it is to me... :)

That's why I don't see the point in these so called "NG" systems and OS's as they are basically just trying to be what a bog standard PC or MAC already is and what's the point in that when you can just go out and buy a PC or MAC and be done with it... ;)

There's nothing like the genuine Amiga hardware and never will be and that's what make it so special... :)
 

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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2011, 03:04:29 AM »
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Wording like "stupid" and "moron" is pretty funny coming from somebody who only boots their computer to spend hours fiddling with the color settings in the BIOS configuration:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=34091&forum=14&start=200&viewmode=flat&order=0#626134


If you take that post literally then please accept my sincere condolences on the complete loss of your intelligence.
 

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Re: AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3
« Reply #74 from previous page: August 29, 2011, 03:04:31 AM »
Hey guys! So what's this thread about then?
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