When did Amiga Inc buy the rights to Commodore from Tulip Computers?

[Amiga_Nut]

Yes Tulip Computers bought the rights to Commodore and licensed this to Ironstone for creation of the C64 DTV all-in-one unit. They only went bust in Sept 2009 (at which point they had changed their name to Nedfield)

So is it clear exactly when Amiga Inc bought the Commodore (non Amiga) IP in the garage sale for the dismantling of Tulip Computers? Please only post links to factual information, no hearsay or waffle. Obviously you would assume this is the case as ************ got agreement to make the C64x from Amiga Inc I believe but can anyone actually point me to factual legal accounts of if/when Bill got the rights to Commodore as well as Amiga?

It's quite important I know IF Amiga Inc have the licence required to recreate something like the C64 DTV or not in 2011 onwards.

Thank you

[Tension]

well he sure didnt get it from amiga inc. - they never owned it!

[Amiga_Nut]

well he sure didnt get it from amiga inc. - they never owned it!

From September 2009 anyone could have purchased the Commodore IP from Nedfield/Tulip Computers as they folded then.

I believe the actual copyright and IP to the C64 DTV motherboard/casing is with Ironstone Partners or Mammoth toys yes? Not sure which of those two own it but Ironstone didn't own the C= IP at the time hence Tulip licensed it.

[Tension]

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[jorkany]

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[Matt_H]

What a mess this all is.

If you're talking about Commodore USA, they started using the Commodore name unilaterally, in a legal gray area, then apparently settled up later on with the actual owner of the name. Their C64 has nothing to do with Amiga Inc.

Amiga Inc licensed them the Amiga name for their (currently vaporware) PCs in a separate deal.

[Markus_Bieler]

These are the actusal oewner of the IP:

http://www.commodorecorp.com/index.html

[number6]

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Nedfield

I'd suggest reading all links within the thread as well, if someone one wants the bigger picture.
As stated though, Amiga Inc. has nothing to do with Commodore in any of its variations.
See last post for most recent renaming. Heh.

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[Amiga_Nut]

Thank you all for your responses. Very useful information.

[orb85750]

These are the actusal oewner of the IP:

http://www.commodorecorp.com/index.html

LOL: According to Yahoo Finance, the book value of
this company is $118,000.

[jorkany]

These are the actusal oewner of the IP:

http://www.commodorecorp.com/index.html

LOL! WTF is this? The "Games" section on that site is hilarious, it just cycles through the artwork for a number of games which have nothing to do with Commodore in any way.

[ferrellsl]

What's with this incessant and obsessive need on Amiga.org to discuss (AKA beat a dead horse) the Commodore and Amiga trademarks?  I swear I think you guys must lay awake at night wondering who owns the trademarks and what they intend to do with them.  Who cares?!  The current owners have nothing to do with the retro-Amiga scene nor with the NG-Amiga scene or its variants like MorphOS or AROS.  I wish you guys would just take your medications and STFU about irrelevant trademark issues.  It doesn't matter anymore and there isn't going to be any Amiga resurrection, so get over it.

The current trademark owners aren't doing anything with the Amiga and Commodore trademark names that hasn't been done with many other notable brands, but I don't hear you guys whining about that.  It happens all the time.  A US car company bought the Jaguar trademark and slapped it on their crappy cars.  Another company bought the Singer sewing machine trademark and slaps it on their shoddy far-eastern produced plastic sewing machines.....etc, etc, etc,  You guys act like Amiga and Commodore are the only brands that have ever been used/abused in this manner.  It happens all the time so grow up and get over it.

[rvo_nl]

What's with this incessant and obsessive need on Amiga.org to discuss (AKA beat a dead horse) the Commodore and Amiga trademarks?

Did you read the following line?
 

It's quite important I know IF Amiga Inc have the licence required to recreate something like the C64 DTV or not in 2011 onwards.

I guess the guy has his reasons?
 
Also, why bother reading/replying threads that dont interest you?

I partly share your vision (I just enjoy my Amiga and follow all the stuff around it when I feel like it) but Im not going to tell others what to discuss in an open forum.

[ferrellsl]

@rvo nl

My point is that this site has become nothing more than a place to bash Commodore/CUSA and Amiga.com.  Very few posts have anything that that could be considered constructive or useful.  Like you, I enjoy my Amigas and look forward to discussing the technology and reminiscing with other retro-Amigans, so I get more than a little tired when the majority of posts are nothing more than "I hate ______" .  Fill in the blank with your choice of CUSA, Commodore, Amiga.com, etc....

Yesterday some clown posted that Amiga.com was evil.  End of post.  Tomorrow he'll probably state that Bill McEwen is the anti-Christ.......too many mentally deranged types have taken over this site and I'm tired of it.  I guess it's time to stop using Amiga.org and go elsewhere.

[rvo_nl]

too many mentally deranged types have taken over this site and I'm tired of it. I guess it's time to stop using Amiga.org and go elsewhere.

hehe oh come on, its not that bad. just read what you find interesting and skip the rest. its still holiday time for a lot of people, things will change when winter comes and everyone starts spending more time behind their machines. its not much better on other sites, tbh..

edit: no wait, it IS better on certain other sites, but 'technical' topics -only can get boring, too, after some time.