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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #59 from previous page: August 12, 2011, 03:38:37 PM »
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Radeons are relatively easy to find if the Mac you want to buy doesn't have one - after all, it's a replaceable component.

Haha, my Mac does not have Radeon. Can you replace it for me?

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2011, 03:42:02 PM »
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Haha, my Mac does not have Radeon. Can you replace it for me?
Can you please stop acting like an idiot?

Hint: The search jacadcaps made specifically searches for powermac with PowerPC G4.
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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2011, 04:01:03 PM »
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Haha, my Mac does not have Radeon. Can you replace it for me?


Since when is that a PowerMac? We've been talking about PowerMacs.
 

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2011, 04:06:07 PM »
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Since when is that a PowerMac? We've been talking about PowerMacs.


Which returns us to my initial point that MOS runs on limited range of Macs.

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2011, 04:13:42 PM »
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Which returns us to my initial point that MOS runs on limited range of Macs.

Kind regards.


If over 30 different models is a "limited range" to you then so be it.
 

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2011, 04:17:25 PM »
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Which returns us to my initial point that MOS runs on limited range of Macs.

Kind regards.
Given that the Mac has used three different architectures and three different ROM formats in four total combinations, only one of which MorphOS supports, that'd kind of have to be true. But I don't think anybody was hoping to run it on a 68020 Macintosh II, do you?
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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2011, 04:18:42 PM »
To those idiots who say 'PowerPC isn't dead cos sony and nintendo and cisco use them' etc etc,  just listen so the idiotspeak you are speaking and stop being idiots. There will never be a mainstream PowerPC personal computer again. EVER. Too much water under the bridge now.

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2011, 04:23:15 PM »
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If over 30 different models is a "limited range" to you then so be it.


Only 30 from over 120 PPC models is less than 25% of the models. If we count by numbers of machines sold of each model the percentage may turn to be even lower.

On the other hand AmigaOS 4 runs on 100% of the AmigaOne hardware and does not need hardware modifications, like some of the "supported" Macs do.

When I bought my MicroAmigaOne I wasn't worried if AmigaOS 4 will run on it or not. It's not the case with the Macs for MOS.

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2011, 04:25:52 PM »
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Given that the Mac has used three different architectures and three different ROM formats in four total combinations, only one of which MorphOS supports, that'd kind of have to be true. But I don't think anybody was hoping to run it on a 68020 Macintosh II, do you?


Of course not AmigaOS 4, but if AROS 68K evolves well, we may see someday Amiga derivative running on this Macintosh II as well as on Intel Macs and PPC Macs. If only there was enough interest.

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2011, 04:35:13 PM »
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Only 30 from over 120 PPC models is less than 25% of the models.

We've made it absolutely clear we're not going to look into pre-G4 Macs. Out of the potentials systems (G4, G5) we're supporting rather good percentage.
 

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2011, 04:37:45 PM »
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On the other hand AmigaOS 4 runs on 100% of the AmigaOne hardware and does not need hardware modifications, like some of the "supported" Macs do.


Oh, that sounds like a blatant lie, or are you simply trying not to remember about all those quirks on the AmigaOne boards that had to be fixed? USB capacitor/resistor issue anyone? What hardware modifications do those Macs need? Replacing a graphics card surely isn't above your abilities, is it? And that is hardly a "hardware modification".

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When I bought my MicroAmigaOne I wasn't worried if AmigaOS 4 will run on it or not. It's not the case with the Macs for MOS.


Ah, so are you stating you are unable to comprehend the easily available hardware compatibility lists? Interesting.
 

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2011, 04:39:53 PM »
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Oh, that sounds like a blatant lie, or are you simply trying not to remember about all those quirks on the AmigaOne boards that had to be fixed? USB capacitor/resistor issue anyone? What hardware modifications do those Macs need? Replacing a graphics card surely isn't above your abilities, is it? And that is hardly a "hardware modification".



Ah, so are you stating you are unable to comprehend the easily available hardware compatibility lists? Interesting.


Maybe drHirudo will tell us about the time he urged his then employer to keep patient medical records on an AmigaOne OS4 system.
 

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2011, 04:57:45 PM »
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To those idiots who say 'PowerPC isn't dead cos sony and nintendo and cisco use them' etc etc,  just listen so the idiotspeak you are speaking and stop being idiots. There will never be a mainstream PowerPC personal computer again. EVER. Too much water under the bridge now.
And how do you know that, exactly? Or is it just "because I said so, so there times inifinity plus one! Nyah!"?

And who was talking about a mainstream computer anyway? The Amiga community is about as far out of the mainstream as you can get and not be Forth.

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Only 30 from over 120 PPC models is less than 25% of the models. If we count by numbers of machines sold of each model the percentage may turn to be even lower.

On the other hand AmigaOS 4 runs on 100% of the AmigaOne hardware and  does not need hardware modifications, like some of the "supported" Macs  do.
Less than 25% of 120 models versus 100% of four? (Or eight, if we count the non-AmigaOne machines.) Yeah, wow, I can see how much better 8 machines supported is than 30 machines supported.

(And as Piru says, that's by choice - if Hyperion wanted, they could expand back into the New World G3 Macs if they so desired and thus support an even broader range of hardware than MOS. But they won't.)
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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2011, 05:03:02 PM »
@Tension

You never know. So don't make assumptions. Intel has not always been 100% successful, it had to make a comeback for video games.
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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2011, 06:36:23 PM »
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@tension

Does Amiga OS4 run state of the art demo natively?. Didn't think so, next.

@framiga

I could assure you than my 32 mb vram mac mini is faster than any sam available right now.
Care to elaborate?.


Sam ? what the hell Sam fits in this thread?

i only said (like every un-happy macmini with 32MB of vram owner) that with that amount of vram, you wont enjoy MOS ... until you reduce resolution, eye candies/themes and IIRC compositing.

In few words, avoid macmini with such specs ... and i would say the same, for an hypothetical future AOS4.x macmini port as well.
 

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Re: Interest in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x
« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2011, 06:40:33 PM »
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I set up a poll at Micropoll to find out who is interested in buying a Mac version of Amiga OS4.x.


Ugh... Ehh...

Yes, but ONLY if it supports a G4 laptop. If they do for a Mac desktop but not a laptop, then absolutely not interested.
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