Rioting in the UK over a Police Shooting?

[Tripitaka]

...and to think, people ask me why I live in the middle of nowhere. It's because I saw this coming years ago.

I must admit that I'm a bit stunned by our politicians claiming that "respect is earned" and condemning theft. That's part of the problem, how can we respect them when they steal off the people in expenses scams that should put them in prison, then evade justice and give themselves a pay rise through the backdoor. Hypocrites, pure and simple. When that's the example set by the leaders of our country what should the youth do? Follow suit?
And I would urge you not to believe the media in the UK too readily either, they are notoriously dodgy bastards controlled by politicians and bankers.
BTW gertsy, did you know that upwards social mobility in England was faster in medieval times than it is now?
Anyway, at least one good thing comes out of all this. We're not likely to get a second term of Tories.

[Franko]

Dunno what all the fuss is about... :rolleyes:

In the UK during anyones lifetime you will live through AT LEAST two major riots, it's nothing new and has been happening the world over since the dawn of Civilisation and the concept we call Society...

Whatever the "reasons" for it (if there really are any) it quite simply doesn't matter one little bit. There should be plenty here old enough to know that this is nothing new and is nothing more than the current generation of youth following on in a tradition of Rioting that is as old as mankind itself...

The looting is nothing new either, it's just youth thinking they are sticking one to the system but don't yet have the life experience or wisdom that comes with age to understand yet that the only damage they have done is to themselves and the society in which they live...

The only thing that surprises me here is folk being "shocked" & "appalled" by this latest storm in a teacup. If you are "shocked & appalled" then your either too young too have experienced what I have said above or you're so old and senile that Alzheimer's has set in and you've forgotten that this is just part of life, always has been and always will be...

There nothing more strange than this concept we call life, always expect the unexpected and never be surprised at just what crazy actions the human race is capable of. If you look through history it's nothing new, the time & date may change but the actions of people always remains consistently the same...

[CritAnime]

Hard and too fast cuts in public services have been a mistake, for example, they want to cut 16,000 police men and women, the number of police on the streets in the last days to keep things under control was exactly 16,000!

It was said in a report that there were more police at the Royal wedding than were available for the riots. How much of this report is fact is up for debate though.

Public sector has been hit hard. And it's all front-line services, such as police, fire and NHS. I work in a busy Hospital and it's shocking the levels at which staffing has got in some areas. We are unable to cope with the demands on services.

But I am not going to dive deeper into this as it's a completely different topic of discussion.

[Tripitaka]

The only thing that surprises me here is folk being "shocked" & "appalled" by this latest storm in a teacup. If you are "shocked & appalled" then your either too young too have experienced what I have said above or you're so old and senile that Alzheimer's has set in and you've forgotten that this is just part of life, always has been and always will be...

...and when we find that we are no longer shocked or appalled we find a stillness inside, it's called apathy and it's a big part of the problem too.

[Franko]

...and when we find that we are no longer shocked or appalled we find a stillness inside, it's called apathy and it's a big part of the problem too.

Not true... like I said there is nothing new or surprising in recent events, it's just part of human nature and therefore if that is a "problem" then the best solution for it is, quite simply get rid of all the humans and leave the planet to the more intelligent creatures like Loins, Monkeys, Fish, Birds & squirrels...

"Apathy" is people who post comments on such things but then go about their daily business doing nothing about the things they comment on, somehow in the belief that such comments will change the world. That's real "Apathy" and unfortunately that applies to most folk on this planet...

[TheDaddy]

>>"Apathy" is people who post comments on such things but then go about their daily business doing nothing about the things they comment on, somehow in the belief that such comments will change the world. That's real "Apathy" and unfortunately that applies to most folk on this planet...


True and until the majority are happy, fed, got a job then all this will quickly be forgotten and the people who are suffering with it. Things really change when the majority are unhappy, have rumbling stomachs and haven't got a job that guaranties them some sort of future.

Rich people have seen their incomes grow 33% over the last 20 years, while the rest have had their salaries (and this is still ongoing) slashed, how is that? How can a country which needs economic recovery allow this to happen and knock on the less fortunate's door?

[Tripitaka]

Not true... like I said there is nothing new or surprising in recent events, it's just part of human nature and therefore if that is a "problem" then the best solution for it is, quite simply get rid of all the humans and leave the planet to the more intelligent creatures like Loins, Monkeys, Fish, Birds & squirrels...

"Apathy" is people who post comments on such things but then go about their daily business doing nothing about the things they comment on, somehow in the belief that such comments will change the world. That's real "Apathy" and unfortunately that applies to most folk on this planet...

Get rid of the people? I take it this is sarcasm.  I agree that this is nothing "new" or "surprising". That does not mean that it's not appalling or shocking. You say that this is just part of human nature as if that makes it OK. It does not, that people suffer, that they go hungry, that those who lead them are poisoning them in body and mind, that they are robbing them and quoting hypocrisy, that they feel the need to express themselves through violence, that is not OK, not at all. Is your faith in human nature at such a low ebb? For goodness sake man, you need to get out more, talk to more people. People in the bus queue or at the supermarket, your neighbors, your co-workers, family and strangers alike. Most humans are good inside, they may be angry or confused or messed up in some way but when you talk to them you understand why. Everyone has a story to tell and time after time you will find that the problems they have come down to very few root problems in our society and that those problems are caused by a tiny minority, a greedy, ruthless and sick minority. Humanity as a whole is worthy I assure you, it's only a tiny few that destroy it for the rest of us. You say that the majority are apathetic, I say that's rubbish. It's not apathy that they spend most of the week to earn the food on the table, it's survival. It's not apathy that they zombie out in front of Eastenders or football, it's brainwashing, it's the hormones pumped into the food, halogens in the water supply and control of human cattle by the media, keep the people chasing their tales and they don't look up. That's classic propaganda, classic control by those who have it all but can't find it in their withered corrupt souls to share. We have enough on this planet that none should be hungry, homeless or without hope. Wake up and see the bars, your a citizen of a prison planet just like the rest of us.

[DavidF215]

Rich people have seen their incomes grow 33% over the last 20 years, while the rest have had their salaries (and this is still ongoing) slashed, how is that? How can a country which needs economic recovery allow this to happen and knock on the less fortunate's door?

Indeed salaries are slashed because management knows that someone is willing to take it in such hard times.

[Tripitaka]

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

With so much owned by so few, it's not management that's to blame, it's higher up the chain.