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Re: ChromaKey+, SuperGen+, DCTV, & RGB Converter. & V3.1 RGB to PAL/NTSC Adapter.
« Reply #59 from previous page: August 09, 2011, 09:43:14 AM »
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Fun cool toys! I hope you can ge a NTSC A600. Maybe you can find an A500 with an 020 or 030 and extra ram.
 

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@Magnetic

Thats right! As soon as I read your description I remembered reading about that.

"GPI Trigger Freeze means you can hook up a joystick or a pedal (gpi trigger google GPI its a standard) so that you can remote freeze frame the video iirc."
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Xdelusion:

I'm not going to help you with any more video stuff until you get rid of that avatar! It makes me feel weird man! :)
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Xdelusion:

I'm not going to help you with any more video stuff until you get rid of that avatar! It makes me feel weird man! :)


Consider your self lucky. She's supposed to be jumping up and down, but Amiga.org seems to have screwed up the GIF somehow.
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YES, like that! Fanko's Avatar Animates, how come mine don't? Tis a sad sad day in Panda world. :/ No NTSC 600, no animated PeePee Girl.
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Quote from: XDelusion;653630
I just removed the internal flicker fixer just to see if it was that that was causing me drama...

It's not. With or without it, if I load up DCTV and click on the corner tab to switch back to my Work Bench screen, the Amiga will lock up. If I load up It's paint app, I am fine, I can click on the buttons below, but if I click in the drawing area, or try to switch to my Work Bench screen, the Amiga locks up once again.

Likewise, If I boot up with my SuperGen plugged in, the screen rolls kind of like displaying a PAL signl on an NTSC television.

I'm really starting to think I need to purchase an NTSC A600.

My 1200 is PAL too, but I'm going to set it up and run the same tests on it.


I think the problem lies in your choice of machines.  The A600 has a newer video chipset and, I think, is the culprit.

I was a co-author of the DCTV manual.  When we worked on DCTV, in 1990, the Amiga range stopped at the A3000.  Since DCTV bangs the hardware quite a bit, I'm thinking you really need to be using an A2000 or A3000 with it.  Also, the same problem might be occurring with your SuperGen....again, older video chips were used when this was designed.

Hope this helps!
 

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I think the problem lies in your choice of machines.  The A600 has a newer video chipset and, I think, is the culprit.

I was a co-author of the DCTV manual.  When we worked on DCTV, in 1990, the Amiga range stopped at the A3000.  Since DCTV bangs the hardware quite a bit, I'm thinking you really need to be using an A2000 or A3000 with it.  Also, the same problem might be occurring with your SuperGen....again, older video chips were used when this was designed.

Hope this helps!



Crap! Can anyone confirm this?
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Damn it i really meant it xdelusion please get rid of that avatar I liked that one with the dinosaur.   DCTV works fine with a600 its the PAL problem... do research on eab or other places man...  trust me on this one buddy... i specialize in vid with amigas especially genlocks and live performance/art installation.
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Quote from: magnetic;653866
Damn it i really meant it xdelusion please get rid of that avatar I liked that one with the dinosaur.   DCTV works fine with a600 its the PAL problem... do research on eab or other places man...  trust me on this one buddy... i specialize in vid with amigas especially genlocks and live performance/art installation.

+1

Really wish you would get rid of that avatar.  I think it borders on the edge of child pornography and has no place here.

I also agree with magnetic's assessment of your video problems with the DCTV on a PAL A600.  Switch to using your A600 only in NTSC mode while using the DCTV and/or do the modifications to really switch your A600 from PAL to NTSC with the mods noted on EAB and other places and it should work fine.  (some of the mods might only apply to A500 & A2000 Amigas that have removable Agnus chips, so they won't apply to your A600, but maybe enough of the other PAL to NTSC mods can apply to make it work for you)

Edit:  I will try my DCTV on my NTSC A600 and A4000D to make sure it works with chipsets later than the A3000 chipset, but I am sure it will work.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 02:35:44 AM by amigadave »
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Switch to using your A600 only in NTSC mode while using the DCTV and/or do the modifications to really switch your A600 from PAL to NTSC with the mods noted on EAB and other places and it should work fine.



Dave he cannot do the former it does no good as the pin frequencies on the physical rgb port are for PAL.  He could do the hw hack to NTSC but its VERY complicated and you need a good solder tech... so prolly more trouble than its worth.. but finding an ntsc 600 is hard.
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Quote from: magnetic;653882
Dave he cannot do the former it does no good as the pin frequencies on the physical rgb port are for PAL.  He could do the hw hack to NTSC but its VERY complicated and you need a good solder tech... so prolly more trouble than its worth.. but finding an ntsc 600 is hard.

"Finding an NTSC A600 is hard", yes, that is why I suggested that he try to get his PAL A600 converted to NTSC if he really wants to use all those video add-on's to his RGB port (though I don't know if all the required conversion mods are possible on the surface mount A600 components).  I know the conversion from PAL to NTSC will be difficult, but which is more difficult, finding an NTSC A600, or converting the one he already has to NTSC.
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What more difficult is to find someone with enough skill to do that mod.. not worth it imho
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I see 600's on EBay every now and then. If I have to play more than they are worth, then so be it. I love them!! :)

Or if I get a deal on a 2 or 3 thousand...

They I cringe at the bulk...

As for my avatar...


It was in no way my intent to display child pornography, it's disturbing for some unknown reason yes, but kiddy porn?!?

Anyhow, I honestly only brought it back by popular request. In fact some requests came from users who used to hate it. That being said, give me time, I'll grow tired of it again, but as long as it is disturbing... ;)
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Quote from: XDelusion;653892
I see 600's on EBay every now and then. If I have to play more than they are worth, then so be it. I love them!! :)

Or if I get a deal on a 2 or 3 thousand...

They I cringe at the bulk...

As for my avatar...


It was in no way my intent to display child pornography, it's disturbing for some unknown reason yes, but kiddy porn?!?

Anyhow, I honestly only brought it back by popular request. In fact some requests came from users who used to hate it. That being said, give me time, I'll grow tired of it again, but as long as it is disturbing... ;)

Why not get an A500 then, if you are opposed to the bulk of an A2000, or A3000?  There are surely tons of NTSC A500's to be had everywhere in the USA at little to no cost, which will run all of those video add-ons just as well as your A600.

I'll drop the avatar topic, as you seem to have no inclination to remove it.  I find it more than a little disturbing and don't understand your choice to use it here.  As for the reason it is disturbing, that is obvious.  When some old man (assuming you are over 30 and probably over 40) chooses to use such an avatar on a public forum site, it is sure to make some people wonder about the reasons for it's choice and use here.  I also would question the motives of anyone that requested that you bring back this avatar, as personally I find it in very bad taste.  Child abuse and pornography are real problems in our world and I for one do not think they should be taken lightly or made jokes of, even by displaying this "only disturbing" avatar.  I won't comment on it again.
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I can tell you guys dctv works fine with aa amgas.

xdelusion: it's not an attsck dave has a lot og point please change it to something cool urr a cool guy so change ur avatar so ppl dont get the wrong ifea :)
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