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Re: ChromaKey+, SuperGen+, DCTV, & RGB Converter. & V3.1 RGB to PAL/NTSC Adapter.
« Reply #44 from previous page: August 07, 2011, 04:38:15 AM »
I payed a pretty penny for my DCTV RGB adapter, though I'm sure there will be more on Ebay and for cheaper sooner or later.
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Yeah I know the seller friend of mine from nyc user group. Very high price. There was one that sold new in box for$25 a few months back and I missed it!

As far as Amipixel statements let me make things clear

If you have a Digital source, you dont need a TBC for INPUT 1 ONLY

All Other Inputs on toaster board 2,3, 4 NEED TBC AFAIK even digital cam in order to sync it.

AFAIK

and why would one put a vt4000 board in the a2k?
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Magnetic: That's the guy, him and I have been talking quite a bit since I've started to buy...

...well EVERYTHING he's got. :)
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Quote from: magnetic;653471
xdelusion

Yeah I know the seller friend of mine from nyc user group. Very high price. There was one that sold new in box for$25 a few months back and I missed it!

As far as Amipixel statements let me make things clear

If you have a Digital source, you dont need a TBC for INPUT 1 ONLY

All Other Inputs on toaster board 2,3, 4 NEED TBC AFAIK even digital cam in order to sync it.

AFAIK

and why would one put a vt4000 board in the a2k?

Alright thanks for clearing that up. As far as why I put a VT4000 in a Amiga 2000, well for starters I bought the Amiga 2000 years before the Toaster. I had also intended to eventually buy a Flyer board, so there was no reason to bother with the VT 2000. I have seen a few A2000's with Toaster 4K's in them. Since the Toaster outputs 24 bit and uses own chips anyway, the end result is not going to be any different. Yes it will run better on an A4000 or A1200 converted into tower, but again I wanted a Flyer. I am still considering buying one.
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@magnetic

I was reading the specs of a DPS TBC IV on Ebay, I was trying to remember what GPI Freeze Trigger was for and how it worked? Any idea?
 

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DCTV program displays fine... Until I go into paint mode, then the screen scrambles.  Might my internal flicker fixer be causing problems?
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Also screen gets totally warped on my 1084s when the SuperGen is plugged in. The VGA that my inernal flicker fixer plugs into begins to show random lines of garbage on the screen.

My A600 is PAL, everything else is NTSC.

Should I only be using the SuperGen and DCTV in genlockable screenodes?
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Did the Toaster 4000 improve some what on this?

"Yes the toaster 2000 Luma is based only on intensity. yes it was not very good, lots of key leaking.

I don't remember, We only had the toaster 4000 about a month before I left for Graduate School,   Most of my experiences were on the 2000.  We only "played" with the luma key when we first bought the Toaster 2000.  We had another production switcher with a rock solid fully adjustable chromakey "ie any color, any notch width control".  

Heiroglyph and/or magnetic do you know the answer to this?
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DCTV program displays fine... Until I go into paint mode, then the screen scrambles.  Might my internal flicker fixer be causing problems?

You need to make sure the first line of the DCTV IFF is displayed with what ever viewer you are using.   It has all the compression info.  The picture needs to be at the top of the image screen, ie the menu bar will throw off the DCTV.
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I just removed the internal flicker fixer just to see if it was that that was causing me drama...

It's not. With or without it, if I load up DCTV and click on the corner tab to switch back to my Work Bench screen, the Amiga will lock up. If I load up It's paint app, I am fine, I can click on the buttons below, but if I click in the drawing area, or try to switch to my Work Bench screen, the Amiga locks up once again.

Likewise, If I boot up with my SuperGen plugged in, the screen rolls kind of like displaying a PAL signl on an NTSC television.

I'm really starting to think I need to purchase an NTSC A600.

My 1200 is PAL too, but I'm going to set it up and run the same tests on it.
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xdelusion

First if you are using a PAl amiga with NTSC gear it will NOT Work for genlocking and things due to signal timings, even if you are in ntsc screenmode afaik.

You should stick with NTSC legal screenmodes as well, check DCTv man.

also is you are looking for cool Toaster softwares this seller has a lot of almost new toaster stuff on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320739335936&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

also if you dont like the dctv and want to sell the converter let me know :)

Amiga Pixel

GPI Trigger Freeze means you can hook up a joystick or a pedal (gpi trigger google GPI its a standard) so that you can remote freeze frame the video iirc.
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Naghh, I think I'll hold onto that RGB Converter and buy a NTSC 600 instead. You wouldn't want to pay what I paid for it anyhow. :)


Oh, and to make the DCTV work, are you saying I just need to be in a NTSC screen mode?
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Alright, I loaded up a NTSC Monitor. Same exact results.

I loaded the DCTV floppy image into RAD:. Booted from that (as suggested in the manual), same results. Booted holding mouse buttons down, selected NTSC, same results.

Must find a NTSC 600 for sale...
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xdelusion

Really nice setup! I'm jeaoulous like crazy for your microkorg :)  Good luck finding an ntsc a600 super rare..

Please re read my post above you CANNOT use PAL Amigas with NTSC video devices like genlocks/framegrabbers/etc because of the pin voltages of PAL. Yes, you can do NTSC SCREENMODES but the RGB out is still PAl frequencies hence your problems.
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@XDelusion

Fun cool toys! I hope you can ge a NTSC A600. Maybe you can find an A500 with an 020 or 030 and extra ram.