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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 07, 2011, 02:15:55 AM »
Now bidding on nvidia geforce 4 and also a soundblaster 128pci.
 
Now I need a network card. Does anyone know which network cards work the best with amithlon?

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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2011, 02:33:28 AM »
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2011, 03:17:49 AM »
I searched Aminet and got some good listings for Amithlon.
http://aminet.net/search?query=Amithlon
well, it is not as good as I first thought.
It does have a video of Bernie demonstrating Amithlon in 18 parts.
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12250&page=3
There is source code and other files at bottom of post on this page.
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2011, 03:32:21 AM »
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I searched Aminet and got some good listings for Amithlon


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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2011, 05:16:18 AM »
Oh, and contrary to what has been advised here by dreamcast270MHZ,. Do *NOT* buy a radeon9250 for use with amithlon. Much like a voodoo3, it'll work, but it doesnt have full support (better than voodoo3 at least).

http://web.onetel.net.uk/~garycvl/amithlon/hardware.htm

There's a couple of omissions, but that's basically the supported hardware. Core Logic chipsets are the main omission there.
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2011, 05:24:43 AM »
Damn, I was really banking on that VooDoo working. Looks like my nVidia GeForce 4 MX is unconfirmed as well. Damn, a man can't win. :)

Thankx for the list, looks like I'm going to have to do a little shoppping.
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2011, 06:12:13 AM »
That list is definitely outdated. Refresh rate support was on my old voodoo PC, I needed to use P96 and manually link the 3dfx driver to the PowerFB driver. Software 3d (wazp) is necessary with any good system (1.5GHz and above in my experience) and it really makes a difference, you get wayy more speed in 3D games (Quake was one I managed to run at a reasonable speed.)
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2011, 06:38:39 AM »
Err,... no offense bloke, but youre talking nonsense. Wazp3d is simply a software implementation of warp3d. In no way, shape or form does it add speed, but rather simply give the user a software rendering option, and its quite slow (albiet the only option for warp3d on amithlon). Thankfully there's very little software that uses it as software (non w3d) renderers are available. Wazp3d will be a multitude of times slower than a normal software renderer. Quake1 for example drops from about 180FPS @640x480 using normal software renderer to about 40 using wazp3d. It does look a little nicer though.

As for the list of hardware, its up to and including kernel310, which has only just recently been superceeded and the new kernel offers next to no additional hardware support anyway and definately not graphics hardware.
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2011, 07:55:45 AM »
I think I'm going to stick with winuae installed on a stripped down winxp installed with windows shell removed, but upgrade to a better box.
 
My current system is ghz, and plays all but the very demanding aga games just fine in winuae. It runs all other software fine too. Seems like this is a nice idea but an awful lot of aggravation to get going.
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2011, 08:05:56 AM »
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I think I'm going to stick with winuae installed on a stripped down winxp installed with windows shell removed, but upgrade to a better box.
 
My current system is ghz, and plays all but the very demanding aga games just fine in winuae. It runs all other software fine too. Seems like this is a nice idea but an awful lot of aggravation to get going.


I have WinUae installed on MicroXP, running on a 3Ghz multicore CPU.
Having also ran this a few years back, I can still say, without a doubt, that you do not realize what you are missing out on here. Sincerely!
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2011, 05:51:01 PM »
How well does games run in RTG on UAE?
Could RTG get more performance?
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2011, 06:05:17 PM »
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I think I'm going to stick with winuae installed on a stripped down winxp installed with windows shell removed, but upgrade to a better box.
 
My current system is ghz, and plays all but the very demanding aga games just fine in winuae. It runs all other software fine too. Seems like this is a nice idea but an awful lot of aggravation to get going.

I'd have to agree with Steven here.
Looks like a promising OS, but the limited hardware support would be too frustrating.
I have a VooDoo3 and an old Geforce2, but I wouldn't resort to using them unless there was a really good argument for it.

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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2011, 06:25:26 PM »
Each to thier own and whatnot, but limited hardware support is just something amiga users have to deal with. Its not like amithlon has less hardware support than either mos or os4.x (in fact amithlons support is probaby better than either of those 2).
Winuae is easier to get going, but amithlon is far superior and a heck of a lot more authentic (both in feeling and how it behaves).
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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2011, 12:32:28 AM »
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Each to thier own and whatnot, but limited hardware support is just something amiga users have to deal with. Its not like amithlon has less hardware support than either mos or os4.x (in fact amithlons support is probaby better than either of those 2).
Winuae is easier to get going, but amithlon is far superior and a heck of a lot more authentic (both in feeling and how it behaves).


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Re: Amithlon cpu speeds and emulator for games?
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2011, 02:11:30 AM »
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Does anyone have a link to a list of supported hardware?
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« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2011, 02:15:00 AM »
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