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My Second Non-working A1500
« on: August 04, 2011, 10:14:00 PM »
I was given another A1500 last week and this one doesn't work either.
The power light comes on but blinks bright, dull, bright, dull etc.

The battery is in there still and showing signs of leaking a bit

There is a cd rom drive, some rom chip thingy and a card that has two hard drives bolted to it and has some ram on it.......any ideas what these are and why this A1500 may not be booting up?

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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 10:43:26 PM »
Have you done the usual press down on all the socketed chips?
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 10:45:50 PM »
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Have you done the usual press down on all the socketed chips?


No, forgot about that one! Thanks, I will try that tomorrow. I removed the card and tested it again to make sure it wasn't preventing it from working.
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 10:46:22 PM »
I take it that you've done the obvious like removing all of the extras like that Zorro SCSI card  with the hard drives on it and seeing if it will boot to the "insert floppy" screen with the Kickstart version?

Also, is that a keyboard switchable Kickstart ROM adapter I see there?  I ask because the normal A2000 Kickstart is just one chip.  Try doing a soft-reset with your keyboard and see if you can toggle between the kickstarts.  Failing that, remove the adapter, pull the Kickstart chips off that adapter and try them in the socket one at a time.
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 10:50:39 PM »
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I take it that you've done the obvious like removing all of the extras like that Zorro SCSI card  with the hard drives on it and seeing if it will boot to the "insert floppy" screen with the Kickstart version?

Also, is that a keyboard switchable Kickstart ROM adapter I see there?  I ask because the normal A2000 Kickstart is just one chip.  Try doing a soft-reset with your keyboard and see if you can toggle between the kickstarts.  Failing that, remove the adapter, pull the Kickstart chips off that adapter and try them in the socket one at a time.


Okay Thanks - I had guessed that was a SCSI card...yeah I had removed it..and I had also assumed it was some kinda ROM adapter. One ROM has 3.1 on it :)
I tried to lift the adapter off but the mobo was moving way too much so I backed off until I got some plastic tools to have another go.
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 11:47:09 PM »
That's some pretty creative drive mounting.

I also noticed that two of the simms don't match.  Are they all GVP modules?

Looks like a pretty nice machine once you get it running.

I agree on putting just one of the ROM's directly in the socket as a test.
 

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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 11:57:03 PM »
On the HC series for the 2000 it doesn't matter as long as they are 1mb 30 pins simms, it's okay, I have the I and II versions all with mixed simms and they all run fine.
 
Looking at that kickstartswitch it looks to be soldered right on the motherboard.
As he already tried to yank it out with the board almost coming out and seeing on the photo how low it sits, this could be the case.
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 01:31:59 AM »
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Looking at that kickstartswitch it looks to be soldered right on the motherboard.
As he already tried to yank it out with the board almost coming out and seeing on the photo how low it sits, this could be the case.


God, I hope not!

It is hard to tell looking from that angle, but it does look like there's enough of a gap under that board for it to be plugged into the original Kickstart socket.  I say "plugged", but it soulds like it has been "nailed" in place.  :D

I'm sure some gentle rocking from either end will work it loose.

Another thought is to switch the ROMs around in their sockets, so that if the primary ROM (which boots first by default) is "dead" then they system can boot from the other one first.
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 02:58:24 PM »
Quote from: Buzzfuzz;653110
Looking at that kickstartswitch it looks to be soldered right on the motherboard.
Doesn't look like that to me. There are two sockets soldered to the kickstart switch PCB which in turn is plugged into a single socket below.

Remember it is one single socket underneath slap bang in the middle. You cannot really see it in the photo.

You can just make out the pins of the sockets which pass through the kickstart switches PCB contrasted against the black of the motherboard socket.
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 04:22:44 PM »
LordSpunky: How do you get given these things?  Why do I never get given these things?

I'm seriously not impressed.  ;)
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 10:47:07 PM »
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LordSpunky: How do you get given these things?  Why do I never get given these things?

I'm seriously not impressed.  ;)


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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, 03:00:43 PM »
Hi chaps, well I have had time to play with the Amiga 1500 today so these are my findings.

Firstly I removed the SCSI card, and then I removed the ROM switcher and put the original ROM in its place. The Fault then changes......I now get a grey screen, light / dark / light / dark. It goes around and around in circles!

I then tried to put in the 3.1 ROM, same, infact using my spare A1500 board I changed every single chip one by one and then back again. (I don't know if any of the spare chips work anyway).....so now I am stumped! I am uploading a video to YouTube and some pics to Facebook and will share the links when done.

http://youtu.be/q2CxKKOK0QE

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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 11:24:02 PM »
I've also changed Paula, Angus and ODDCIA from a working A500 and still no joy! EEP! Any Ideas?
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2011, 11:56:08 PM »
Sounds like you've tried almost everything, but this YouTube clip migh give you some other ideas on how to deal with troublesome hardware:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv0onXhyLlE
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Re: My Second Non-working A1500
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2011, 08:19:00 AM »
Maybe your PSU doesn't provide enough juice, what kind of PSU are you using?
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