Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Found RAM card for GVP CPU  (Read 3819 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline HeiroglyphTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 1100
    • Show only replies by Heiroglyph
Found RAM card for GVP CPU
« on: July 16, 2011, 10:46:36 PM »
I came up with a cool find today:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=228

It's the RAM expansion module for GVP T-Rex cards that has 6 additional slots to expand the total memory to 256MB!

I had no idea any existing CPU card could even hold that much.

If I don't find a compatible CPU card in the warehouse, I'll probably sell this little gem.

Edit: As was pointed out, the link is incorrect, there are no 32MB GVP SIMMs.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2011, 11:10:53 PM by Heiroglyph »
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: Found 256MB RAM card for GVP CPU
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 10:55:12 PM »
Nice find, but I don't think it can actually reach 256MB - I'm pretty sure 16MB was the largest SIMM size GVP made.

Hope it finds a good home :)
 

Offline HeiroglyphTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 1100
    • Show only replies by Heiroglyph
Re: Found 256MB RAM card for GVP CPU
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2011, 11:02:27 PM »
Quote from: Matt_H;649874
Nice find, but I don't think it can actually reach 256MB - I'm pretty sure 16MB was the largest SIMM size GVP made.

Hope it finds a good home :)


Good point...I was just going by the Big Book comments.

Anyway, something I'd never seen before and I'd still like to find the CPU to go with it.
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: Found 256MB RAM card for GVP CPU
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2011, 11:33:18 PM »
Big Book is good, but not infallible :)
Then again, I also wouldn't be surprised if GVP's wizards found a way around the 128MB limit with some prototype 32MB SIMMs and non-autoconfig space :)

As to the TRex itself, didn't Softhut produce a batch of these last year? Or was that a different model? (I seem to recall an integrated SCSI controller)
 

Offline HeiroglyphTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 1100
    • Show only replies by Heiroglyph
Re: Found 256MB RAM card for GVP CPU
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2011, 11:38:26 PM »
Those are the 4060's, this is for the T-Rex which was an 040 as far as I know and had a connector for a SCSI module that never saw the light of day.

I've been looking at making some hardware lately and I don't see why everyone stopped at 128MB other than RAM prices and density.

Looks like there's plenty of room for a couple GB up there with the densities we have today.
 

Offline Colmiga

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 105
    • Show only replies by Colmiga
    • http://colmiga.org
Re: Found 256MB RAM card for GVP CPU
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 04:57:51 AM »
The memory address space for the CPU slot on the A3000(T)/A4000(T) is limited to 128MB max anyway. This means 256MB is impossible unless GVP devised some way to get around this limitation (which I doubt). I'm guessing that's why the RAM board has 6 slots (plus 2 on the T-Rex) to accomodate 8x16MB GVP SIMMs for 128MB.

I wish I had one of these when I owned a T-Rex board. Reason I sold mine was because it could not take any more RAM than the 32MB it had on it.
Sam460ex: PPC460ex/1GHz, 2GB RAM, 30GB SSD via on-board SATA-2, DVD-RW via USB, Radeon 5450 1GB PCIe, Catweasel Mk4 PCI, A4000 KB and Competition Pro CD32 Pad.
A4000D: 030/25MHz, 16MB RAM, Indivision Mk1, 8GB CF as HDD and IDE CD-ROM.

Amiga user since 1992.
 

Offline HeiroglyphTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 1100
    • Show only replies by Heiroglyph
Re: Found 256MB RAM card for GVP CPU
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2011, 05:29:36 AM »
Is there a documented limit other than 32bits and addresses used by other devices?

Local bus slaves (at least on A3000, the only reference I have) are within $08000000 to $0fffffff, so there is a limit there.

I don't see why you couldn't map some of the the RAM into another unused area  like $80000000 to $FEFFFFFF, decode it yourself instead of using Gary, then link it in at runtime.

That's about 2GB of additional space without even getting touching the Z3 address space.
 

Offline Zac67

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2004
  • Posts: 2890
    • Show only replies by Zac67
Re: Found 256MB RAM card for GVP CPU
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2011, 11:15:59 AM »
Quote from: Colmiga;649920
The memory address space for the CPU slot on the A3000(T)/A4000(T) is limited to 128MB max anyway.


True. But this should be relatively easy to overcome if you provide your own address decoder and abandon DMA from mobo to accelerator RAM.
 

Offline Jakodemus

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Join Date: Oct 2006
  • Posts: 45
    • Show only replies by Jakodemus
Re: Found 256MB RAM card for GVP CPU
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2011, 11:35:03 AM »
Nice find, but sadly little useless. Those 16mb GVP-simms cost so much that it's cheaper to buy another accelerator. Thats why my T-Rex only has 8mb of ram. :(